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Old 02-14-2014, 09:52 PM
 
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Surprised not to see a thread about this. It's been covered by the national media for weeks, and the vote ended tonight.

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The United Auto Workers union suffered a crushing defeat Friday, falling short in an election in which it seemed to have a clear path to organizing workers at Volkswagen's plant in Chattanooga, Tenn.
The setback is a bitter defeat because the union had the cooperation of Volkswagen management and the aid of Germany's powerful IG Metall union, yet it failed to win a majority among the plants 1,550 hourly workers.
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"This vote was essentially gift-wrapped for the union by Volkswagen," Mr. Hammond, the labor lawyer, said.

But more workers were persuaded to vote against the union by the UAW's past of bitter battles with management, costly labor contracts and complex work rules.
VW Workers in Chattanooga Reject Auto Workers Union - WSJ.com

The UAW has fallen from 1.5 million members to 400,000. The article says they must get foreign automakers to unionize to stay afloat. But many workers in the Southern auto plants make more than their UAW counterparts in the rust belt, and they don't have to give up big chunks of their salaries to the UAW.

This was the UAW's best chance at unionization in the foreign, Southern auto factory. Volkswagen "gift wrapped" this vote for them, but the workers decided to vote the union down.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Sinkholeville
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Great news!

I guess VW will be making quality products instead.

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Old 02-14-2014, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I'md delighted as well; all of the so-called 'transplants' knew about the very contentious history between the UAW and the Detroit Three, and wanted no part of them, and all of them are thriving throughout the Deep South.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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You can lead a horse to water....

The company wanted the union on the board the way they have it in Germany.

LMAO..only in America.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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I'md delighted as well; all of the so-called 'transplants' knew about the very contentious history between the UAW and the Detroit Three, and wanted no part of them, and all of them are thriving throughout the Deep South.
There hasn't been labor trouble in years. They have UAW plants, like in Spring Hill, Tn where they've been working a long time without even having a contract.

The UAW accepted deep concessions to keep the industry afloat...even accepting a two tiered pay system.

The union isn't why the Big 3 had problems. They manufactured junk..that's why they had problems.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You can lead a horse to water....

The company wanted the union on the board the way they have it in Germany.

LMAO..only in America.
I hope things like this start to make the US look to countries like Germany and have a reform of how unions are run in this country. Unions are a great thing to have, but unfortunately the US has poorly run unions that do little to benefit Americans, and we could learn a lot from our European friends.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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I hope things like this start to make the US look to countries like Germany and have a reform of how unions are run in this country. Unions are a great thing to have, but unfortunately the US has poorly run unions that do little to benefit Americans, and we could learn a lot from our European friends.
If people would empower the unions, they'd work better.

Even still, having one is better than not having one at the end of the day.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's interesting that private unionization is going to die but public unions will live on. It should really be the exact opposite, but so should most other things in this country. I think SCOTUS is going to put an end to "union shop" requirements soon. After that private unions will be all but dead in the US.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:21 PM
 
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Tennessee Senator Bob Corker told the workers Volkwagen would receive no more state "incentives" if the workers unionized. It's pure extortion but what were they supposed to do?
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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Why did VW want the plant unionized?
There are a myriad of reasons.

The Germans see it as fostering trust, and having the union on the board insures transparency and gives the workers a sense of being more than just an employee. It also streamlines the representation that the company has to deal with on behalf the employees.

But alas...Germans aren't the same dumb goobers that we have in this country...our idiots decided to listen to Tennessee politicians that ran a campaign against union entry.

Americans just can't take yes for an answer.
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