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Again: When MILLIONS AND BILLIONS are being spent on research, it would be expected that there would be significant positive results, and if you're going to argue that there can't be significant positive results, then all of the money should be given back or no more should be taken. You can't argue for research and at the same time say "cancer is complicated, you can't really expect a cure."
I'm beginning to think it's just a tax write off for foundations - otherwise, why would they not have expectations? It makes no sense. If you give one million for cancer research and there are no results, why would you then give 99 million more?
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Cancer is probably going to keep increasing since we've created hospitable environments for things that are bad for us. Fortunately, treatments have been developed that offer close-to-cures for many types that routinely killed people not that long ago. It's a moving target so you can't just claim not progress has been made since we still have cancer. That's a really stupid way of thinking/not thinking.
We (humanity) are going to die off eventually and cancer is but one of the ways that will contribute to our downfall. WE ARE NOT SPECIAL.
Again: When MILLIONS AND BILLIONS are being spent on research, it would be expected that there would be significant positive results, and if you're going to argue that there can't be significant positive results, then all of the money should be given back or no more should be taken. You can't argue for research and at the same time say "cancer is complicated, you can't really expect a cure."
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HOW ARE THE MILLIIONS AND BILLIONS JUSTIFIED?
I'm beginning to think it's just a tax right off for foundations - otherwise, why would they not have expectations? It makes no sense. If you give one million for cancer research and there are no results, why would you then give 99 million more?
Please answer my post on Page 1 where I outline SPECIFICALLY what advances were made, particularly in the areas of genomics, immunotherapy, and stem cell transplant research.
And as was previously stated multiple times, detection methods and access has improved dramatically as has lifespan.
Those numbers are skewed. That's not actually what is happening.
The incidence rate is way up.
Slash and burn "cures" poison the system and sometimes increase cancer (Google studies).
Lung Cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer . . . the incidence is increasing.
Pancreatic cancer will kill you in a few, short months (yet doctors still prescribe radiation and chemo, so that people's last few days are more miserable than is necessary).
I don't know WHY anyone would argue that there has been significant progress when the incidence rates are way up.
As someone who goes to treatment daily I know that everyday above ground is only because of the resources expended going all the way back to 1921 when they first Id'd the type of cancer from which I suffer. Everyday I send my young children off to school and take them off the bus in the afternoon validates every freakin dime ever given or spent to fight this disease. I had a good friend who lived for 6 years after his diagnoses pass away not to long ago. 6 great years only because of the treatments made available to him through the research done in the past. I am 2 years into it after my diagnoses and thank God everyday for the opportunity to live one more day for my children
I would be dead by now if not for treatment and depending on how tough an individual is they cant predict how long someone with the will and determination can live. There are new agents and therepies coming around the corner everyday. The OP would have to go through what im going through to value the progress that has already been made. Be happy in your ignorance
As someone who goes to treatment daily I know that everyday above ground is only because of the resources expended going all the way back to 1921 when they first Id'd the type of cancer from which I suffer. Everyday I send my young children off to school and take them off the bus in the afternoon validates every freakin dime ever given or spent to fight this disease. I had a good friend who lived for 6 years after his diagnoses pass away not to long ago. 6 great years only because of the treatments made available to him through the research done in the past. I am 2 years into it after my diagnoses and thank God everyday for the opportunity to live one more day for my children
I would be dead by now if not for treatment and depending on how tough an individual is they cant predict how long someone with the will and determination can live. There are new agents and therepies coming around the corner everyday. The OP would have to go through what im going through to value the progress that has already been made. Be happy in your ignorance
Sorry you are ill. Why do you think you have cancer?
Those numbers are skewed. That's not actually what is happening.
The incidence rate is way up.
Slash and burn "cures" poison the system and sometimes increase cancer (Google studies).
Lung Cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer . . . the incidence is increasing.
Pancreatic cancer will kill you in a few, short months (yet doctors still prescribe radiation and chemo, so that people's last few days are more miserable than is necessary).
I don't know WHY anyone would argue that there has been significant progress when the incidence rates are way up.
Again, detection and diagnosis is at an all-time high. People are living longer. As for your other claims, please provide a source for your claims.
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Sorry you are ill. Why do you think you have cancer?
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