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Old 02-22-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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There was a time in this country when the unions served a useful purpose. Today they are corrupt and too involved in politics on every level. Their first obligation at one time was to the union membership. Today their first obligation is to enrich themselves.
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:02 PM
 
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Useful purpose the unions served was to build Las Vegas so the mob could rape the place. So it hasn't really changed............now the mafia boys just hold political office IMO.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Lets see it? Why would you even make that statement without the documentation to support it? Unions only make up 10% of workers in this nation.
You've basically answered your own question. Union representation has declined to less than 10%. With that decline, we have seen stagnating wages, eroding of benefits, and the end of job stability. When the boss had to compete with the higher paying union shop, he had to pay just enough to keep you from walking down the street. Today, it's minimum wage that's propping the incomes of many up, and the boss isn't worried about you leaving... More than likely, he will be the one most likely to initiate the split.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:11 PM
 
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Stagnating wages in UNIONS. LOL. I guess you have nothing to offer either. Your buddy ran off. Min wage has been around from the time I was a child is that what your referring to as stagnating wages? Lord have mercy. Job stability? I can get a job in the private sector in a week if need be. I have skills. Union employees turn a screw or ten of em stand around watching a guy turn a screw. That is not a skill you are stealing from our tax dollars as most unions left are government unions. I don't need some union rep to negotiate my salary and take a hunk of it I can do it myself. That is why union wages "stagnate". I doubt you will ever understand any of what I just posted...........probably because you are union. You want somebody else to understand it for you and then when they read you a rant like you just wrote you want to go hurt people who are doing better off than you because in reality you know your just a sucker. Hey a week or so till you gotta pay your dues.......I pay my dues to my family.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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There is statistical correlation between the decline in union membership and the decline in earning power of the middle class.

Correlation != Causation.

The world has many, many more places to manufacture just about everything.........USAtard has lost that edge, and many other edges a LONG time ago.
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Except who are they accountable to?

Are their decisions public? Along with their meetings? Who are they? Where does their $$$ come from?

Answer those and THEN tell me it would he a fair decision.
The NLRB has been packed with union advocates by Obama, and generally does anything it can in favor of the union and against everyone else.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:03 PM
 
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It will be fair.
No, it will not. Obama has turned it into a union advocacy arm of the party.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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There is statistical correlation between the decline in union membership and the decline in earning power of the middle class.
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You've basically answered your own question. Union representation has declined to less than 10%. With that decline, we have seen stagnating wages, eroding of benefits, and the end of job stability. When the boss had to compete with the higher paying union shop, he had to pay just enough to keep you from walking down the street. Today, it's minimum wage that's propping the incomes of many up, and the boss isn't worried about you leaving... More than likely, he will be the one most likely to initiate the split.
You're not entitled to earning power or increasing wages or increasing benefits or job stability.

Here is the right answer......

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Correlation != Causation.

The world has many, many more places to manufacture just about everything.........USAtard has lost that edge, and many other edges a LONG time ago.

Economics....it's what rules...


Mircea
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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There is statistical correlation between the decline in union membership and the decline in earning power of the middle class.
There is an actual cause and effect relationship between unions and failed American industries.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No, it will not. Obama has turned it into a union advocacy arm of the party.
Show me stats on decisions since January, 2005 versus previously and if they prove your point, I'll believe you.
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