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Old 02-17-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: texas
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It is primary season here in Texas, and the vying for votes is on. A candidate for Texas AG touts that he got Texas' "Moment of Silence" law passed. In his TV ad, children are shown sitting at desks, hands in "prayer mode".

In 1963, The US Supreme Court banned prayer in public schools...Abington School Dist. v. Schempp .

Which leades me to ask conservatives; Is starting the school day with a required moment of silence
seen as a victory for religious freedoms, or is it a poor compromise for the ban on a required reciting of a prayer to start the school day?
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I am a conservative that believes strongly in the Establishment Clause. I think a moment of silence is a perfect way for people to reflect in their own way without any government interference or influence.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL at that "moment of silence".
It means nothing to the kids.

I wouldn't get all in a tizzy about this.
Remember these are kids here.
The "silence" occurs when we say the 2 pledges and I'm the only one in the class saying them.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: texas
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I am a conservative that believes strongly in the Establishment Clause. I think a moment of silence is a perfect way for people to reflect in their own way without any government interference or influence.
Although the state requiring the reflection is government interference. Voluntary reflection or prayer is not banned.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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LOL at that "moment of silence".
It means nothing to the kids.

I wouldn't get all in a tizzy about this.
Remember these are kids here.
The "silence" occurs when we say the 2 pledges and I'm the only one in the class saying them.
I know I'm going to be sorry I asked, but I'm guessing one pledge is the Pledge of Allegiance- what's the other one???
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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As a practicing Catholic and conservative(former *******) I never understood the whole prayer in public school thing.

Say a prayer before school if it means that much to start your day.

The Pledge though should always be mandatory and you can get rid of the word God if it bothers you.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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I know I'm going to be sorry I asked, but I'm guessing one pledge is the Pledge of Allegiance- what's the other one???

Texas has their own pledge to the state flag.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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I am a conservative that believes strongly in the Establishment Clause. I think a moment of silence is a perfect way for people to reflect in their own way without any government interference or influence.
So you don't think the government passing a law establishing the "moment of silence" qualifies as "government interference or influence"?
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Texas has their own pledge to the state flag.
I knew I'd be sorry I asked...
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Texas has their own pledge to the state flag.
Our local schools do the Pledge Allegiance, pledge to the Texas flag, and the national anthem. I'm against a moment of silence - it presumes a supernatural being who accepts quicky silent prayers, and guys just use it stare at the ceiling or think unholy thoughts about the cutie in the front row.
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