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Old 02-18-2014, 05:41 AM
 
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If I recall correctly, in Congress, this was a Democrat 100% backed and voted law. I'd look at your Democrat Party kid. The older, wiser U.S. population was 100% in its opposition.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The South
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Older Americans are early winners under health law | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Heres a group that would probably lean Republican. It looks like they are the biggest winners under the ACA.
You can look at this two ways they are taking money from the young to pay for their health care or they are simply keeping their taxes and using it to pay for health care. Anyone wants to whine about transfering money from young to old you can start with Medicare which borrows 240 billion a year and is barely means tested. The ACA is means tested and revenue neutral.
I'm one of the older Americans, you speak of. My Medicare bill is $146.96 per month. I do appreciate you younger folks helping out. Keep up the good work, cause I plan on living a long time. And yep, I lean Republican.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Older Americans are early winners under health law | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Heres a group that would probably lean Republican. It looks like they are the biggest winners under the ACA.
You can look at this two ways they are taking money from the young to pay for their health care or they are simply keeping their taxes and using it to pay for health care. Anyone wants to whine about transfering money from young to old you can start with Medicare which borrows 240 billion a year and is barely means tested. The ACA is means tested and revenue neutral.
Wasn't ACA targeted for the younger crowd (millenials)?
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Older Americans are early winners under health law | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


.................The ACA is means tested and revenue neutral.
Umm, "revenue neutral" is yet to be demonstrated in the real world. Medicare ended up costing 1,000% more than expected, over a period of years.

And it is means tested--but not age-neutral. The young get screwed into the ground, for some reason, for the benefit of the older. Part of Obama's stealth generational war on the young, which also featured spraying money as if from a fire house at his supporters (Solyndra, as one of a hundred examples), money that was borrowed from the future.

You're welcome, kids! You voted for him!
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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Older Americans are early winners under health law | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Heres a group that would probably lean Republican. It looks like they are the biggest winners under the ACA.
You can look at this two ways they are taking money from the young to pay for their health care or they are simply keeping their taxes and using it to pay for health care. Anyone wants to whine about transfering money from young to old you can start with Medicare which borrows 240 billion a year and is barely means tested. The ACA is means tested and revenue neutral.
So you admit Obamacare su-ks?
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Wasn't ACA targeted for the younger crowd (millenials)?
Yes and 81% are getting subsidies and paying less than they would have without the ACA. The average family subsidy is approximately $2600 per year. I guess if you are a Republican you might call it a tax credit and note people are keeping their money. I am not sure why conservatives-Tea Party types think young people are getting screwed? You might think they have a better plan.

Heres an article from Avik Roy over at Forbes pointing out that the ACA isnt going to be going into a death spiral anytime soon.

Sorry, Conservatives: Based On The Latest Sign-Up Figures, There Won't Be An Obamacare Death Spiral - Forbes
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wasn't ACA targeted for the younger crowd (millenials)?
Only to pay for it. It was targeted at the old and uninsured chronically ill.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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Older Americans are early winners under health law | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Heres a group that would probably lean Republican. It looks like they are the biggest winners under the ACA.
You can look at this two ways they are taking money from the young to pay for their health care or they are simply keeping their taxes and using it to pay for health care. Anyone wants to whine about transfering money from young to old you can start with Medicare which borrows 240 billion a year and is barely means tested. The ACA is means tested and revenue neutral.
Everyone who follow ACA know what this is. This is just Social Security 2.0. The only different is, ACA is million time more complex. It is so complex that the people who put it together can't even agree on everything.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes and 81% are getting subsidies and paying less than they would have without the ACA. The average family subsidy is approximately $2600 per year. I guess if you are a Republican you might call it a tax credit and note people are keeping their money. I am not sure why conservatives-Tea Party types think young people are getting screwed? You might think they have a better plan.

Heres an article from Avik Roy over at Forbes pointing out that the ACA isnt going to be going into a death spiral anytime soon.

Sorry, Conservatives: Based On The Latest Sign-Up Figures, There Won't Be An Obamacare Death Spiral - Forbes
It's in the law that it's a tax credit.
These people will have to rectify those "credits" on their 2014 return next April 2015.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I'm one of the older Americans, you speak of. My Medicare bill is $146.96 per month. I do appreciate you younger folks helping out. Keep up the good work, cause I plan on living a long time. And yep, I lean Republican.
it's people like you that have driven borregokid into a state of utter insanity in which he continuously howls about old people, the tea party, medicare, medicaid, VA, tricare, oxygen tanks and mobility scooters.

keep up the good work
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