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View Poll Results: Do You Think Most Blacks Are Trying To Be White?
Yes, Likely They Want To Blend In With Part of Society/Fashion 10 14.93%
Yes, Because They Feel Victimized/Hated Otherwise 3 4.48%
No, This Is Absurd & Possibly Racist To Even Point Out 14 20.90%
No, Only a Small Percentage Do It 22 32.84%
None Of The Above 18 26.87%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-21-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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Malcolm X was mixed race and his views changed more towards the end of his life. He was filled with so much hate in his heart and was racist bit was able to turn around and saw the light of truth in working for an equal all encompassing world more towards the end of his life.
That was a factor of his religion, and arguably was limited only to Muslim whites. He didn't suddenly become noble for nothing.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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The term passing is stupid. If you look white then you ARE in fact white and have every right to claim such if you desire.
If you conceal your parents, you're not really claiming what you are.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonet's daughter is a Jew under Jewish law. And she has identified as mixed race. What quantifies or describes the "black" experience? There is no one universal black experience.

Zoe Kravitz is mixed race and identifies as such.
the black experience is the experience of being treated as "other" and the way it effects your life. and this otherness experience has many differing elements from the otherness most Asian and non African Latinos feel. it has nothing to do with socioeconomic class or what music you listen to. being Jewish, as we have discussed many times on this board, has nothing to do with skin color. you can be white, black, Semitic, or all of the above and still be Jewish. most black Americans are mixed race btw. the difference between Zoë Kravitz and Mariah Carrey is that Mariah has a white parent. Zoe's parents are both "other". also, Mariah is half white, not 3/4s. her south American grandparent was of west African descent.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Not necessarily true. That depends on one's perception over whethe or not they'd be considered black or not in the USA. This happens all the time in families in the USA, and Latin America where children in one family come out with different skin colors and even phenotypes.

Both of those twins' parents are both mixed race. Both of these twins are mixed race.

If the parents are black to you then so are people like Jennifer Lopez black to you?
the better question is, do you think Jennifer Lopez is white? lol.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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The thing I find funny is that when light skinned or mixed women go natural, darker skinned or blacker looking people often come out of the woodworks saying oh why are all these light skinned people and mixed breeds co opting the natural hair movement, when just a minute ago they were accusing these folks of being anti black or questioning why they don't embrace curls or naps and kinks. Can't have it both ways. It's so hypocritical. It's like with any issue, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Smh
can you give an example of this, because I have been natural fo about 5 years now and I have NEVER heard anyone put down a light skin/biracial woman for wearing her own freakin hair. just please stop.
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Old 03-22-2014, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Do you have proof that Minaj is a play on the the ménage a trois? Nick Minaj's real name is Onika Tanya Miraj, which inspired her stage name. Nicki Minaj is Trinidadian by the way.

And it takes 2 black people and black parents to make a black person.


A person can be multigenerational mixed person such as Vanessa Williams, Tisha Campbell, Stacey Lattisaw etc.

Terrence Howard for example was born to two parents each that are each mulattoes.

Also where does one draw the line as in to who is black and/or who's not? Is George Zimmerman black since he has an Afro Peruvian mother? Is Carly Simon black since she has Afro Cuban and other African ancestry in her?

Is Heather Locklear or Johnny Depp black since they have notable black ancestry? Where does one draw the line?
so why would nicki not just use her real name if it wasn't a play on words? she can be Trinidadian, Jamaican, or Guyanese, her azz is black. behold! follow the following link, look at her parent's pic and tell me which one is not black.
Nicki Minaj's father 'devastated' she wanted to kill him over violent temper | Mail Online
please stop trolling.

it's so weird, why is it excepted that someone can be 1/32 Cherokee and still be considered native American in this country, but if someone is 1/4 black, and good looking or successful, they are unequivocally NOT BLACK. we get it. black = baaaaaaaad.

in America, where Vanessa Williams, Tisha Campbell, Stacey whoever reside, they are all black. just like Beyonce and her sister. no one ever wants to claim Solange as mixed though. just like me, just like my husband. black in the US is NOT a skin color. it's not about the percentage of non west African DNA floating in your body, it is an experience. either you are trolling, foreign, or 2 days old.

here's an interesting story about how black is identified in America.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/...ent_294229.htm

there was a more recent story about a brown skin man who appears black who found out he is less than 50% sub Saharan African. again genetics is not what makes us black.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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in America, where Vanessa Williams, Tisha Campbell, Stacey whoever reside, they are all black. just like Beyonce and her sister. no one ever wants to claim Solange as mixed though. just like me, just like my husband. black in the US is NOT a skin color. it's not about the percentage of non west African DNA floating in your body, it is an experience.
This is true, or at least it has been true. It is changing now, and it's changing more for light-skinned blacks than for dark-skinned blacks. Whereas in the past, if white America could visually identify you as being in any percentage black, or if they otherwise knew you were some percentage black, you were treated as black.

Being light-skinned did not get anyone into a "Whites Only" country club or movie theater or restaurant. Being light-skinned did not get you a job in a place that only hired whites. It did not get your rape case investigated by the police. Lena Horne was still forced to pee in a cup because they wouldn't let her use the club bathroom.

It didn't even get you any more movie or television roles--light-skinned actors actually got fewer roles, because they were chosen not for "black roles," but for specific "light-skinned black" roles. And most of those were "tragic mulatto" roles, because white America definitely wanted the message to be that race-mixing led to tragic results.

These days, it's different. White society does favor light-skinned blacks, and that is increasing the scourge of colorism far greater than it had been when blacks of all hues were equally discriminated against.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Black people are a beautiful race, they should have nothing to hide or be ashamed of.

Time and time again, we see way too many Black celebrities and regular folks relaxing their hair, making it blonde, getting nose surgery and even waist/hip reductions. It just seems so obvious that many are changing their appearances to look "White".

Racial Psychology: Why Do Black People Want to be White? | The New Observer

Is it social pressure? The media? Is it because 90% of commercials on television use White actors?

What is the main influence.. what is going on?

http://s12.postimg.org/ehevuzv95/101...54708628_n.jpg
R&B Singer/Movie Star Beyonce

http://s12.postimg.org/94q1gv7cp/Mic...8211_1_402.jpg
Pop Singer Michael Jackson

http://s12.postimg.org/ra2zux6ux/nic...collection.jpg
Rapper Nikki Minaj

http://s12.postimg.org/f4dskis55/s_S...SKIN_large.jpg
Ex-Baseball Player Sammy Sosa

Treat me with respect on this subject, I am an Iraq veteran and I am also black.

So what are black people so afraid of? Do they feel that they need to be accepted in a "White World"?
Is this a serious thread?

I don't know of a single black person who is trying to be white. If white people with straight hair are getting their hair done so that they have curls, are they trying to be anything but white? If white people go get tanned, does that mean they are trying not to be white? If a white person dyes their hair darker, does that mean they are trying not to be white? If a white person gets implants, does that mean they are trying not to be white?

I thank you for your service, absolutely, but c'mon man. This is ridiculous to say that because a black person straightens their hair, they are trying to be white.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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There are also many dark skinned-blacks that the light-skinned blacks. It goes both ways.
No, no it doesn't. It's a one-way street. Always has been.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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This is about the silliest thing I have read.
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