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View Poll Results: Do You Think Most Blacks Are Trying To Be White?
Yes, Likely They Want To Blend In With Part of Society/Fashion 10 14.93%
Yes, Because They Feel Victimized/Hated Otherwise 3 4.48%
No, This Is Absurd & Possibly Racist To Even Point Out 14 20.90%
No, Only a Small Percentage Do It 22 32.84%
None Of The Above 18 26.87%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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What's wrong with Stormfront?
It's where the white supremacist inbreeders congregate If you don't mind that post away...
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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I didn't say white people accepted light-skinned blacks as white. I say that they favored them. I guess I should qualify that: White society favors light-skinned blacks over dark-skinned blacks today in a way that it did not in the past.

The favoritism of light-skinned blacks is specifically, though, for "mixed/colored/biracial" light-skinned blacks--those of directly black/white parentage--not simply a black person who happens to have light skin.

Thus, Tisha Campbell (who is probably the child of two light skinned blacks or a random combination of light-skinned genes from two darker-skinned blacks), does not fit the favored category. In her case, her more afro-centric features "give her away." Vanessa Williams, however, would fool them.

Something to note in all this as background: Remember that fifty years ago, interracial marriages were rare. Up until 1948 they were outright illegal in thirty states of the Union, and illegal in 16 states up until 1967. And an interracial marriage could get one or both of them killed in any of the other states if the couple wandered into the wrong neighborhood. I'd bet money there were zero interracial marriages in the Oklahoma army town where I went to high school, except the black/foreign military marriages. Those were the exceptions to the rule proven by their very conspicuousness.

That meant two things when I was a kid up through my own adolescent and into my adulthood:

1. The percentage of light-skinned blacks in the black population was much, much smaller prior to 1970. The percentage you see today represents a huge spike that occurred in the 70s.
2. Those that existed were almost exclusively the result of genetic dice from African-American parentage, not immediate black/white parentage.
I agree with a lot of what you say, so I'm not trying to argue with you, I just don't honestly see any examples (none that I can think of) of whites practicing colorism. perhaps you have some examples. I think of popular celebrities and, though light skin blacks dominate black pop music and what passes these days as r&b music, there are darker blacks make inroads in Hollywood. Lupita Nyong'o pretty much dominated award season. Idris Elba is still very big (and hot) these days. not only are these people dark, they're actual Africans.

from what I see, the biggest push to divide and dissect the black community is coming from the growing number of biracials, who really shouldn't have a say since they are outsiders. it's just a loud vocal minority. this is why black people should not be so quick to embrace biracial people, they will understandably have some sort of loyalty to the non black parent, which often causes confusion and chaos. sure we have some shared issues, but we share issues with latinos and Asians, but we don't invite them to be black.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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I agree with a lot of what you say, so I'm not trying to argue with you, I just don't honestly see any examples (none that I can think of) of whites practicing colorism.
Stroll through the cosmetic section of any department store in the US. They won't let even a woman who has naturally dark skin keep her dark skin.

The use of the "ethnic woman of ambiguous ethnicity" predominates in US advertising whenever they choose to use a woman who is non-white. It's quite rare to see the use of a truly dark-skinned black woman when the intent is merely to show "diversity."

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Lupita Nyong'o pretty much dominated award season. Idris Elba is still very big (and hot) these days. not only are these people dark, they're actual Africans.
Being "actual Africans" is part of the reason for their current novelty in Hollywood. Stress: "Novelty."

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from what I see, the biggest push to divide and dissect the black community is coming from the growing number of biracials, who really shouldn't have a say since they are outsiders. it's just a loud vocal minority. this is why black people should not be so quick to embrace biracial people, they will understandably have some sort of loyalty to the non black parent, which often causes confusion and chaos. sure we have some shared issues, but we share issues with latinos and Asians, but we don't invite them to be black.
Having a black parent certainly made one a member of the "team" (whether he wanted to be or not) within my own memory. And a lot of biracials--particularly those of the X generation who are in regular occupations (not in the arts, where they hobnob more with liberals than with working-class conservatives)--accept being as they are treated...black.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Stroll through the cosmetic section of any department store in the US. They won't let even a woman who has naturally dark skin keep her dark skin.

The use of the "ethnic woman of ambiguous ethnicity" predominates in US advertising whenever they choose to use a woman who is non-white. It's quite rare to see the use of a truly dark-skinned black woman when the intent is merely to show "diversity."



Being "actual Africans" is part of the reason for their current novelty in Hollywood. Stress: "Novelty."



Having a black parent certainly made one a member of the "team" (whether he wanted to be or not) within my own memory. And a lot of biracials--particularly those of the X generation who are in regular occupations (not in the arts, where they hobnob more with liberals than with working-class conservatives)--accept being as they are treated...black.
I think with lupita the African thing is part of her popularity, but with idris, I doubt most people know he isn't American, let alone british, let alone the product of two African parents. he's just hot. just like denzel back in the day.

as far as biracial people, I think that their feeling unity with the black community is a thing of the past and I encourage biracial people to identify separately from us and find their own destiny. and I don't think they should represent black people in the media. it sends mixed signals to blacks and non blacks alike.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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remember though, a good portion of the conservative white males who post here are from stormfront.
What about the conservative black females?
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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What about the conservative black females?
Bulldogdad loves his strong conservative black sistas.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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its stupid, but its a tool used by whites, specifically white conservative males to attempt to demean black people.

but as i said before and youve said, almost everybody does stuff to alter there look.

even adriana lima, victorias secret model, wears makeup.
Adriana lima not only wears makeup, she also has breast implants and *gasp* hair extensions to make her hair fuller and longer.

I doubt however that she is ever asked to simply be natural and accept how God made her.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:43 PM
 
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I think with lupita the African thing is part of her popularity, but with idris, I doubt most people know he isn't American, let alone british, let alone the product of two African parents. he's just hot. just like denzel back in the day.

as far as biracial people, I think that their feeling unity with the black community is a thing of the past and I encourage biracial people to identify separately from us and find their own destiny. and I don't think they should represent black people in the media. it sends mixed signals to blacks and non blacks alike.
Uh; what is a "biracial" in your opinion? I'm asking a real question here since going by DNA: even many dark skin "Black" people can be 50 percent "white". How would YOU feel if you found out you're less than half "Black" using DNA.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Uh; what is a "biracial" in your opinion? I'm asking a real question here since going by DNA: even many dark skin "Black" people can be 50 percent "white". How would YOU feel if you found out you're less than half "Black" using DNA.
Speaking for myself, I sure as hell wouldn't be happy.

But what can you do. Nothing.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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What about the conservative black females?
White supremacist don't like blacks if they're conservative or not... Common sense...
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