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The unemployment rate for African-Americans is still twice that of white Americans, a trend which we had overcome before Obama took office, yet numerous of my friends and relatives still continue to strongly support him.
What are you talking about? The jobless rate for African-Americans has always been higher than for whites. What do you mean by, "a trend we had overcome before Obama took office?"
The unemployment rate for African-Americans is still twice that of white Americans, a trend which we had overcome before Obama took office, yet numerous of my friends and relatives still continue to strongly support him. A small few have given somewhat legitimate reasons as to why, but most don't really know whats going on and are so out of touch with what's really going. Most people (conservatives and liberals) actually get most of their information from the news without really doing their own research on candidates policies which is a shame.
Also many of them bring up the healthcare (which is being handled about as well as the government handles most other things) reform act as a reason why. With the economy in the state it is in, how are we supposed to pay for this healthcare? Oh wait, we'll just continue to keep raising the debt ceiling. One day that ceiling is going to fall on all of our heads.
Listening to the extremely biased political hacks of TV creates the illusion that there are really two parties. In truth, both parties are coalitions. We see with this the Tea Party division in the Republicans today.
Likewise, the Democrats are a coalition, not a single-minded party as TV hosts like to portray. Not all democrats are left-wing socialists as we liek to assume. The divide with the Democratic Party that has always existed because it was a coalition of diverse groups that came together to fight Republicans of Herbert Hoover’s day were hell-bent on one central issue. They believed in activist government, not Laissez-faire. This, my friends, was the only unifying voice.
How did Democrats emerge as the party to represent minorities when they were the party that suppressed them, you ask? This is the magic of cross-dressing politicians who can change their clothes in the blink of an eye to pretend they are the very solution to the distinct problems they create. It was Lincoln and the Republicans who defeated the Southern Democrats who were pro-slavery, but today, this very same party is the party that stands for the rights of minorities. Similarly, It was Bill Clinton who repealed Glass Steagall and gave the banks free rein. It was a Democrat to created it (FDR), and a Democrat who repealed it (Clinton). Gotta love polyticks.
What are you talking about? The jobless rate for African-Americans has always been higher than for whites. What do you mean by, "a trend we had overcome before Obama took office?"
No one is denying that but it was trending down to where at one point we dipped below 2x mark...not much but progress is progress. Now its back over that amount.
They strongly support a person because they believe, like most of us, that a person of their own race wouldn't betray them. So far, Obama's policies may have hurt them, but they don't know what would of happened without his policies so they assume that his policies have helped them... Obama is more concerned about the Democrat party than African-Americans... if he can make African-Americans more dependent on voting for the Democrat party then he calls that a success... if you look at his past policies, it isn't to make Americans better, he is trying to hook them to the Democrat party like drugs... he is intolerant of any policy that didn't come from the liberal agenda... even if the liberal agenda took a conservative tone, he will still stick up for it and never admit that Republicans were right...
Hurting me?
I'm sitting at my desk at work and it looks to me like I'm doing pretty damn good. Remarkably good in fact.
So how are Obamas policies hurting me. Lemme know so I can stop it.
Before you slip so easily and casually into it is all Bush's fault give some thought to how this country has typically acted when we are attacked with great loss of life. I'll characterize it for you; we overreact. Enacting supra-protective laws.
To support my premise, I give you the internment of thousands of japanese immediately - within four months - following the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Japanese Internment Camp Timeline Coincidentally, FDR - you know that old time President - was a Democrat.
Am I throwing FDR under the bus? Or tit for tat? No. Just making a point about over zealous idolatry and demagoguery.
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Originally Posted by gtc08
bush was also the mastermind behind the patriot act, which ended any idea of privacy or freedom in america.
white conservative males still back him to the day on that, so whos really drinking the koolaid? these white males have voted republican for life in many instances, and the ones in the rural areas are worse off then ever.
I think that is a very fair request. Assuming you are one of 'his' people I think it is also fair for you to very specifically state why you would stay with the Democrat Party.
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Originally Posted by Chimuelojones
It maybe refreshing to read this but it does not speak to the OP contention that "his people" should leave the democratic party...
It maybe a reason to consider, but what is the reasoning to join an opposite party?
The unemployment rate for African-Americans is still twice that of white Americans, a trend which we had overcome before Obama took office, yet numerous of my friends and relatives still continue to strongly support him. A small few have given somewhat legitimate reasons as to why, but most don't really know whats going on and are so out of touch with what's really going. Most people (conservatives and liberals) actually get most of their information from the news without really doing their own research on candidates policies which is a shame.
Also many of them bring up the healthcare (which is being handled about as well as the government handles most other things) reform act as a reason why. With the economy in the state it is in, how are we supposed to pay for this healthcare? Oh wait, we'll just continue to keep raising the debt ceiling. One day that ceiling is going to fall on all of our heads.
Of course you are very wrong about the black unemployment as compared to the white unemployment rate. It has always been twice as high as the white unemployment rate going back at least to the 1970's.
This has nothing to do with President Obama, which means you don't really care about the black unemployment rate which again is always twice that of the white unemployment rate, but want to attack President Obama using the black unemployment rate as the instrument of attack.
Of course you are very wrong about the black unemployment as compared to the white unemployment rate. It has always been twice as high as the white unemployment rate going back at least to the 1970's.
This has nothing to do with President Obama, which means you don't really care about the black unemployment rate which again is always twice that of the white unemployment rate, but want to attack President Obama using the black unemployment rate as the instrument of attack.
You missed the whole entire point of my post. It had nothing to do with attacking Obama but more to do with people not doing their due diligence and voting for him. If your ideals, values etc match his then fine. But it has been my experience that many people simply support him because he's black even though his policies don't align with their beliefs OR they support him because things were going to change for us as black people. Well it hasn't.
BTW Obama's first year in office the black unemployment rate was 1.67 (the lowest ever) times the national employment...It has gone back up to over 2 times the national rate hasn't been back under since.
I can respect those that vote for him because they know his platform and agree with what he's doing....but those that are supporting him without really knowing the details are the ones I'm talking about.
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