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Old 02-21-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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Farrah is not the subject of this thread..
you linked to the article that found it necessary to have farah's input on the subject.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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well, with a quote like this:

"Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dem"

i think it's a pretty safe bet FARS' not a democrat.
Irrelevant. Speculation is not confirmation.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:47 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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actually berg does have the distinction of filing the first of the 220 failed lawsuits.
Federal law suit, maybe, but his candidacy had been challenged on the state level long before.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Ted Cruz running for president?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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....but his candidacy had been challenged on the state level long before.
please link to any such case. the one's i know of happened after august 2008.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: texas
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Show me a court case where an immigrant is ruled "natural born citizen".
that was may contention of Cruz. No court case has ruled it out. So he being naturalized in no way disqualifies him until a court does.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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What do you mean 'your side' started this pertaining to presidential eligibility? It was a Hillary Clinton democrat supporter named Phil Berg, a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, who filed the first eligiblity lawsuit against Obama in 2008.
And once the matter was settled did she form a Cold Case (snort) Posse because the facts weren't what she wanted them to be?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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1. He didnt file the first law suit

2. even if he did, filing the first law suit is not the same as starting it.
On August 21, 2008, Berg filed the first Birther lawsuit, requesting an injunction to stop the Democratic Convention from going forward and alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. He faxed notices to the DNC

So he did file the first law suit and further.

Investigations for my new book, Wingnuts, revealed that the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs. They were a splinter group of hard-core Hillary Clinton supporters who did not want to give up the ghost after the bitter 50-state Bataan Death March to the 2008 Democratic nomination.
In the early summer of '08, message boards on sites like PUMAParty.com began lighting up with the ultimate reversal-of-fortune fantasy—that their party's nomination could be overturned on constitutional grounds. "Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President!" read one representative e-mail: "This came from a USNA [U.S. Naval Academy] alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media handle this...WRITE TO YOUR LOCAL newspaper editors etc. Keep this out there everyday possible. Also write to the DNC too!"

The 'Birthers' Began on the Left - The Daily Beast


So the Birther movement started with a Clinton supporter who was the first to file a law suit
2) That party that actually started was the one that filed the first lawsuit
So if you are the first party to file a law suit it is the same as starting it unless of course you go Orwellian Newspeak
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Irrelevant. Speculation is not confirmation.
WND's first article on birtherism, june 10, 2008, predates berg's lawsuit by over 2 months:

Is Obama’s candidacy constitutional?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Bothell, Washington
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Arnold Schwarzennegger is a immigrant. The Constitution forbids him to be eligible for the presidency.
Yes, I am so surprised anyone is arguing with you on that! The whole crazy birther thing was not about Obama being a citizen, because even they knew he is. They were saying he was not BORN in the US, claiming instead that he immigrated here as a child and then became a naturalized citizen, which would have made him ineligible to be president if actually true..
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