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Old 02-24-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Correct , thats why i was wondering how this was anti gay .

This bill is so that owners CAN NOT GET SUED because they dont want to serve someone. I think its a great bill since it seems like today everyone trys to sure for whatever reason they can.

I wonder where the outrage is for the " no shoes no shirt no service " ? Can liberals answer that.

You can always put on a shirt. You can't stop being gay.

 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Putting aside the ludicrousness of promoting the religious freedom of business to discriminate against a class of people
But discriminating against people's religious beliefs is OK?
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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You can always put on a shirt. You can't stop being gay.
What if i was out on the beach , shirt was in my hotel room since it was like 100 degrees out. So now i have no shirt, now what?

Simple solution : Just got to another establishment.

They Gay community is reminds me of the POTUS. Its either their way or NON at all.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Correct , thats why i was wondering how this was anti gay .

This bill is so that owners CAN NOT GET SUED because they dont want to serve someone. I think its a great bill since it seems like today everyone trys to sure for whatever reason they can.

I wonder where the outrage is for the " no shoes no shirt no service " ? Can liberals answer that.
For the 20th time at least: a business owner can refuse service to gays in AZ under current law. A business can discriminate for any reason they want including sexual preference other than what is prohibited by the Civil Rights Act and state laws that have similar action - race, religion, gender, and national origin. Some cities here like Phoenix, Flagstaff, maybe Tucson have city ordinances prohibiting discrimination against gays, though.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Correct , thats why i was wondering how this was anti gay .

This bill is so that owners CAN NOT GET SUED because they dont want to serve someone. I think its a great bill since it seems like today everyone trys to sure for whatever reason they can.

I wonder where the outrage is for the " no shoes no shirt no service " ? Can liberals answer that.
You think a hygiene issue of allowing people to not wear clothing in a restaurant is comparable to flat out refusing service in a public accommodation to an entire group of people based on who they are?

Shall we have gays wear pink triangles on their arm so Arizona businesses have an easier time of figuring out who to kick out?

Did you have a problem with blacks being denied access to hotels or restaurants during the 60s?
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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You think a hygiene issue of allowing people to not wear clothing in a restaurant is comparable to flat our refusing service in a public accommodation to an entire group of people based on who they are?

Oh so now its all about what can be comparable and what cant right? Stupid logic

Shall we have gays wear pink triangles on their arm so Arizona businesses have an easier time of figuring out who to kick out?

Nobody is asking them to do that so i dunno where you come up with that? Where are you getting this idea that every business will refuse ALL gays? So now you are just making an assumption with no facts.

Did you have a problem with blacks being denied access to hotels or restaurants during the 60s?
If i recall this is the year 2014 not the 60s.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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Putting aside the ludicrousness of promoting the religious freedom of business to discriminate against a class of people, this will be bad for business in AZ. There will be organizations and groups who will choose to take their money elsewhere. Look at what happened when AZ said no to Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday - the NFL pulled Tempe's Superbowl hosting and put in in Pasadena.
Then let the public decide what to do with their money. It worked out great for Chic Fil A, in Arizona which is a pretty conservative state, those busineses will pprobably do pretty good too by standing up for their Religious Rights.

You obviously didn't read the bill either, each case has to be reviewed by a court. No court is going to allow a restaurant to hang a flag that says '' no gays '', that would be discrimination and wouldn't be approved by the courts at all. It's for more specific protections such as as trying to force a Christian bakery to Bake a cake for a Gay wedding or ceremony. That type of event would be approved of by the courts.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Then let the public decide what to do with their money. It worked out great for Chic Fil A, in Arizona which is a pretty conservative state, those busineses will pprobably do pretty good too by standing up for their Religious Rights.
Wrong analogy. Chik-fil-A doesn't deny service to people based upon who they are. The founders' faith in terms of business dictates that they don't open on Sundays. Which doesn't discriminate between classes of customers. Now if they want to refuse service to one group of people vs. others, they will be in trouble with the law. Sure, the head of the company made homophobic comments but it doesn't affect their business operations (and customers are free to choose to go or not go to their stores).
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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If i recall this is the year 2014 not the 60s.
Your logic is flawed, so yes, it is about what can be compared and what can't. Your argument was stupid, because it lacked basic logic or rationality.

And despite this being 2014, you conservatives still act like it's the 60s. Actually, a lot of you act like it's the 1860s.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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Your logic is flawed, so yes, it is about what can be compared and what can't. Your argument was stupid, because it lacked basic logic or rationality.

And despite this being 2014, you conservatives still act like it's the 60s. Actually, a lot of you act like it's the 1860s.
Im sorry , i dont comprehend the language , i never said i was conservative here did i ?

My logic? How is it flawed?

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