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Old 02-27-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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The lasting "stain" (so to speak) of the Clinton administration was not his predatory sexual behavior, but the disasterous policies of NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status. Today, even Clinton himself has admitted that both of these policies have had severe negative "unintended" consequences on our manufacturing sector and the middle class.

Would Hillary (given that she is "for" the middle class and poor), reverse NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status and correct the error of her husband? Would she limit the power of the bankers and the Federal Reserve over our economy? Would she demand term limits and limit the ability of lobbyists and PACs to control our elected officials?
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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The lasting "stain" (so to speak) of the Clinton administration was not his predatory sexual behavior, but the disasterous policies of NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status. Today, even Clinton himself has admitted that both of these policies have had severe negative "unintended" consequences on our manufacturing sector and the middle class.

Would Hillary (given that she is "for" the middle class and poor), reverse NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status and correct the error of her husband? Would she limit the power of the bankers and the Federal Reserve over our economy? Would she demand term limits and limit the ability of lobbyists and PACs to control our elected officials?
If she did that the establishment would find a way to get her out of office.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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I`m sure you all know that if Bob Dole would have been elected we would still have NAFTA which was approved by a majority of Republicans in the House and Senate. Stain you say?
Would you like to see the house vote on NAFTA? - Yahoo Answers
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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^^ really? Yahoo answers? Wow.


As for the OP, no way she does that. She couldn't if she even wanted to.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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The lasting "stain" (so to speak) of the Clinton administration was not his predatory sexual behavior, but the disasterous policies of NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status. Today, even Clinton himself has admitted that both of these policies have had severe negative "unintended" consequences on our manufacturing sector and the middle class.

Would Hillary (given that she is "for" the middle class and poor), reverse NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status and correct the error of her husband? Would she limit the power of the bankers and the Federal Reserve over our economy? Would she demand term limits and limit the ability of lobbyists and PACs to control our elected officials?

We must recall that the negotiations between the US, Canada and Mexico began in 1986, with the agreement signed by President George Bush (the elder) in December 1992. Of course, it had to be approved by Congress, which President Bush hoped would occur prior to his leaving office (he tried to 'fast track' it). However, not until President Clinton came into office was the agreement (with some modifications by Mr. Clinton concerning the protection of workers and the environment) approved by Congress (bipartisan support) and sent to Mr. Clinton for his signature, which he then signed in December 1993.

I doubt that Mrs Clinton would want to try to get Congress to break the agreement.

I know little about the politics of Most Favored Nation status, although I see that China regained such in 1980 (after it had been suspended in 1951), with Mr. Clinton extending it. This article was an interesting read:


Clinton Grants China MFN, Reversing Campaign Pledge - The Tech

It appears that it was mainly Democrats and liberal groups who urged President Clinton to not renew the most favored nation status of China. From the link:

"Clinton had been the subject of heavy lobbying by American business interests and his economic advisers to continue China's trade privileges. With China now the world's fastest growing economy, the United States exports $8 billion a year there, which sustains up to 150,000 American jobs. Many major American businesses see even greater potential in Chinese markets, expecting China to become a massive purchaser over the next decade of the phones, electronic gadgets and thousands of other products made in America."


I imagine that our economy is so entwined with China's that the business community would again protest any such action by the next president, whoever it may turn out to be.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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^^ really? Yahoo answers? Wow.


As for the OP, no way she does that. She couldn't if she even wanted to.
Okay, you show us the roll call vote on NAFTA.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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Absolutely not!
Democrats are NOT for the middle class and lifting the poor up.
They are for keeping people dependent on government welfare programs so they can keep
getting re-elected.


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The lasting "stain" (so to speak) of the Clinton administration was not his predatory sexual behavior, but the disasterous policies of NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status. Today, even Clinton himself has admitted that both of these policies have had severe negative "unintended" consequences on our manufacturing sector and the middle class.

Would Hillary (given that she is "for" the middle class and poor), reverse NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status and correct the error of her husband? Would she limit the power of the bankers and the Federal Reserve over our economy? Would she demand term limits and limit the ability of lobbyists and PACs to control our elected officials?
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Okay, you show us the roll call vote on NAFTA.

Since you seem interested in seeing how they voted back in 1993:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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I wonder if Perot would have "leveled the playing field".. Clinton just like a politician was totally against it...until they were elected. Thing is we keep getting played by the he said she said crap.. I'm tellin ya its 2 arms of the same beast.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Maybe when hell freezes over.
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