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Old 03-03-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Wow!

So are the same liberals who are harassing this woman also going after people who choose to be homeless in their cities and counties?
Calling them liberals is laughable. Cape Coral is solidly and extremely conservative and republican. It is No. 16 of the top 50 conservative cities in the US. They are very strict and authoritarian about the "rules."

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Old 03-03-2014, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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They are very strict and authoritarian about the "rules."
Just like any good liberal.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just like any good liberal.
She broke the rules and got caught.
There's nothing liberal or conservative about that.

You want to go off grid and do your own thing then move to an area without those restrictions.

Cape Coral is the last place she should have moved.
If she can't afford her utilities then sell and MOVE.

High density areas are NOT viable areas for homesteading.
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nice deflection, but those facts are irrelevant. This thread is not about her character, but about the Nanny State city. Being a thief does not justify the city disallowing her to be off the grid for electricity and water.
The real stink is about her continued use of the public sewer system and refusing to pay for it, a continuation of her pattern of taking what does not belong to her which is evidence of her character.

As it relates to a nanny state, I guess we could turn back time and allow 315 million people to toss their waste out the window and into the street, as once was common in the U.S.

Her choice was and remains to continue to live in Cape Coral and abide by the rules or relocate somewhere else more conducive to the way she wants to live.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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Haven't we been told for decades about the importance of conserving resources? Electricity? Water? And didn't it use to be a positive attribute to be self sufficient rather than leeching of the backs of others? Well, that's no longer true when you have a nanny state.
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By all accounts, Robin Speronis is engaged in a successful experiment in "living off the grid" in Cape Coral, Florida. The 54-year-old former real estate agent disconnected from city water and power about a year and a half ago. Now she relies on solar panels, propane lanterns, and collected rain water in her duplex and seems quite happy about it. But the city clearly is not. Officials tried to boot her from her home, and have now given her until the end of March to reconnect to the grid. A special magistrate who tossed many of the charges and admits that reasonableness may not play a role in the rules says she will ultimately have to comply. Speronis is standing firm.

Florida City Threatens Woman For Living Off the Grid - Hit & Run : Reason.com
Wtf does this have to do with a supposed nanny state? Pulling outrage from thin air.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
I have said it many times on a couple of different forums:
IF you KNOW the applicable laws;
and
OBEY the applicable laws;
and
DOCUMENT your compliance with the applicable laws!
You will have no problem!

Obviously, the person in question did NOT do ANY of the above!

So, exactly whose responsibility is it that she got in trouble?
"Personal responsibility" rears its ugly head again!
I have no sympathy for her!
I doubt there is one person in the entire USA that knows every law they are supposed to comply with so your statement is useless.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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She should have moved to where she could do what she wanted with no regulations in place.
Sorry but when you move to a place with rules you need to follow the rules or move.

She's no "victim" here. She's ignoring rules and regulations put in place for that location.
But the point is the hyprocricy of these Big Government people who claim to want conservation and then oppose somebody who is trying to live the ultimate conservation lifestyle.

And nobody knows all the rules of their town.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Calling them liberals is laughable. Cape Coral is solidly and extremely conservative and republican. It is No. 16 of the top 50 conservative cities in the US. They are very strict and authoritarian about the "rules."
They may be conservatives but they act like Democrats.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The real stink is about her continued use of the public sewer system and refusing to pay for it,
No, it's not. Read a little. The issue is they are forcing her to be on city water. That's the real stink.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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What exactly is a nanny state?

What is the Govt not allowing you to do that you so badly want to do?

You can buy liquor, you can speak out, post here, what nanny state? The only thing I don't like is the healthcare mandate fine but please you are clueless to what a nanny state really means. It means you can't walk or drive where you want and when you want and we don't have anything even close to that

Govt taxes everybody, as is true in every other nation in the world, but you keep more than you are taxed.
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