Rightwingers don't like when average citizens have too much freedom, huh?

[Volobjectitarian]

tl;dr - OP not that great of a techie, has vaporware idea that is currently only residing in the developer equivalent of rounded scissors and paste in kindergarten - Excel, and has been unable to get the vaporware any closer to any market...and apparently this is the fault of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Uhm yeah.

Few points:

• As already mentioned, the tech industry is overwhelmingly Left wing, to the point of group think reality by consensus.
• The tech industry loves anything that can be competition gadfly that annoys some larger software behemoth
• The Open Source movement loves finding ways to improve on large tech giant products and then give the better product away along with the SDK to make it even better.
• The open source movement hates the US government and crony capitalism with the white hot passion of 1,000 suns.

So basically, if you have an "awesome app" that you just know should be on every PC/tablet/phone, but just cannot seem to get there, I'll help you out with exactly all the possible causes:

• The app sucks.
• The app is vaporware.
• Someone better at app development already has a way better product that is free.

You'll note that politics, be they right or left leaning politics, never enters the "why your teh rulest roflst0mpz awesomesauce app hasn't taken over the universe yet" discussion. It isn't a conspiracy. Your app just isn't as great as you think it is.

[surfman]

Originally Posted by little-acorn

rightwingers don't like when average citizens have too much freedom, huh?


you mean, this "right-winger"?

"... A lot of people say there's too much freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it."
-bill clinton, april 19, 1994, in an interview on mtv

sorry, your accusation is a non-starter.

When it comes to people who fear average citizens having too much freedom, the leftists wrote the book on it.

Normal americans have been opposing them from the get-go.... For exactly that reason.

applause applause

Originally Posted by EricS39

I think Conservatives mean well, but the record shows Liberal places have more middle income entrepreneurial types.

There it is... condescension added to insult.

Originally Posted by EricS39

Occupy Wall Street was successful in that people had at all times of the day, a place to crash and organize and work together. It was a chapter in a process that is to somehow be continued.

A place to organize and work together is called "a JOB", and a job pays for the place to crash. Most of us do these things daily.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian

tl;dr - OP not that great of a techie, has vaporware idea that is currently only residing in the developer equivalent of rounded scissors and paste in kindergarten - Excel, and has been unable to get the vaporware any closer to any market...and apparently this is the fault of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Uhm yeah.

Few points:

• As already mentioned, the tech industry is overwhelmingly Left wing, to the point of group think reality by consensus.
• The tech industry loves anything that can be competition gadfly that annoys some larger software behemoth
• The Open Source movement loves finding ways to improve on large tech giant products and then give the better product away along with the SDK to make it even better.
• The open source movement hates the US government and crony capitalism with the white hot passion of 1,000 suns.

So basically, if you have an "awesome app" that you just know should be on every PC/tablet/phone, but just cannot seem to get there, I'll help you out with exactly all the possible causes:

• The app sucks.
• The app is vaporware.
• Someone better at app development already has a way better product that is free.

You'll note that politics, be they right or left leaning politics, never enters the "why your teh rulest roflst0mpz awesomesauce app hasn't taken over the universe yet" discussion. It isn't a conspiracy. Your app just isn't as great as you think it is.

Was that what the OP's **** was about? I just thought it was drug/alcohol fueled blather.

[Volobjectitarian]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

Was that what the OP's **** was about? I just thought it was drug/alcohol fueled blather.

Yeah, apparently an app, that right now is some math in an Excel spreadsheet, that calculates a longitude/latitude end point from a given starting point is an app that the entire world cannot live without, and the only reason this tin_cans_tied_together_by_strings version of pre-1980 GPS hasn't made the OP a multi-gazillionaire yet is because right wing cronyist collusion with tech giants is keeping the geek man down.

True, there are like a dozen apps that just ask for two points and give you down to the last foot the directions, distance, left/right turns, etc between the two, but dude, they are using boring old realtime satellite imaging, and the OP is coming correct with 17th century mariner math that uses the Sun and Moon and some trigonometry to do even LESS and with less utility than the dozen or so totally FREE apps that do the same thing, just better, faster and prettier.

Essentially, he has an idea like replacing smart phones with 1975 Hasbro version GI Joe walkie talkies, and the only reason he hasn't gotten his awesomeness off the ground is because Bush/Reagan/Limbaugh/yeeaaaaarrrrgghhhh!

[Little-Acorn]

Originally Posted by EricS39

I exaggerated it slightly.
What the app does is uses sun/moon data based on like sunrise equation

Sin(solar elevation -.83)/ cos(angle declination)*cos(angle latitude)

- tangent (angle declination) times tan (angle latitude)

With longitude, timezone, equation of time adjustment

Then uses this method to track linear distances from sun position

And for the backyard piece, it's that you take a photo of both your iPhone's compass and the view, then a bearings is scaled to your photo

Actually didn't implement it yet but Connecticut had a software organization to allow me to put stuff in excel and then get it in app form

The math/science behind it isn't difficult, it's the making it work at reasonable bandwidth and delivery that's hard.

Ummm... Columbus used this method when navigating to the Indies. (but some other continent got in his way, oops).

I believe Roman war galleys and the ancient Phoenicians did too.

For every ship that has ever sailed out of sight of land since then, this was standard navigation practice (minus the iPhone part).

How much research did you do, before beginning this "innovation"?

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian

Yeah, apparently an app, that right now is some math in an Excel spreadsheet, that calculates a longitude/latitude end point from a given starting point is an app that the entire world cannot live without, and the only reason this tin_cans_tied_together_by_strings version of pre-1980 GPS hasn't made the OP a multi-gazillionaire yet is because right wing cronyist collusion with tech giants is keeping the geek man down.

True, there are like a dozen apps that just ask for two points and give you down to the last foot the directions, distance, left/right turns, etc between the two, but dude, they are using boring old realtime satellite imaging, and the OP is coming correct with 17th century mariner math that uses the Sun and Moon and some trigonometry to do even LESS and with less utility than the dozen or so totally FREE apps that do the same thing, just better, faster and prettier.

Essentially, he has an idea like replacing smart phones with 1975 Hasbro version GI Joe walkie talkies, and the only reason he hasn't gotten his awesomeness off the ground is because Bush/Reagan/Limbaugh/yeeaaaaarrrrgghhhh!

I learned navigation using 17th Century mariner math. Damn I hated that course.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian

Yeah, apparently an app, that right now is some math in an Excel spreadsheet, that calculates a longitude/latitude end point from a given starting point is an app that the entire world cannot live without, and the only reason this tin_cans_tied_together_by_strings version of pre-1980 GPS hasn't made the OP a multi-gazillionaire yet is because right wing cronyist collusion with tech giants is keeping the geek man down.

True, there are like a dozen apps that just ask for two points and give you down to the last foot the directions, distance, left/right turns, etc between the two, but dude, they are using boring old realtime satellite imaging, and the OP is coming correct with 17th century mariner math that uses the Sun and Moon and some trigonometry to do even LESS and with less utility than the dozen or so totally FREE apps that do the same thing, just better, faster and prettier.

Essentially, he has an idea like replacing smart phones with 1975 Hasbro version GI Joe walkie talkies, and the only reason he hasn't gotten his awesomeness off the ground is because Bush/Reagan/Limbaugh/yeeaaaaarrrrgghhhh!

Exactly. Although, while your post is far more interesting to read, I prefer my blunt, succinct approach earlier:

"You just need a good idea. Yours wasn't a good idea."

[Ultor]

I'd buy his app... (if it could tell me to the square inch how far his screed resides from reality!)