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Old 02-27-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by biscuitmom View Post
Haven't read all the posts but I'll pragmatically address the issue.

From a legal standpoint, the only sustainable equation is a two-person marriage. Tax-wise and estate-wise, multiple spouses create a legal/governmental quagmire.
For example, if marital immunity in legal testimony is assumed and multiple spouses are permitted, then a person could easily marry multiple persons in the interest of obtaining immunity. Re income taxes: multiple spouses = even more convoluted tax rules than currently exist. Re inheritance: I shudder to think what the court burden would be for multiple spouse beneficiaries. Ditto social security, pension, and insurance benefits. Not to mention spousal say in health care / end-of-life situations.

Point is, there are many, many legal and governmental arguments to support a "one-spouse" concept, but nary a single argument to support a gender-specific concept.

Biscuitmom, I'm afraid you are just too rational for this debate.


Anti-gays who push the "we're hypocrites if we don't allow polygamy" lack several things:

1) Knowledge of how constitutional analysis works;

2) Perspective

3) Critical thinking skills



You are literally like the ONLY one who has touched upon the reasons why polygamy has MULTIPLE rational basis which would allow Courts to conclude that marriage should be expanded to allow multiple partners to same.

These basis you cite are also not troubling in the way that they appeal to someone's religious proclivities, traditionalism arguments that fall apart under scrutiny, or moralizing.



I have invited the "we must allow polygamy" folks to spend time trying to figure out how to work through the very problems associated with expanding the rights and responsibilities marriage to polygamous marriage. No coherent response, as usual.

No, they'd much rather "hit and run" post their typical nonsense and mentally masturbate with their like minded brethren.

 
Old 02-27-2014, 05:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by surfman View Post
I can see that history is lost on most of you. The saying goes "when in Rome", but Rome fell.
Polygamy was illegal under Roman law.

http://www.princeton.edu/~pswpc/pdfs...del/010903.pdf
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Old School Reactionary View Post
It's inevitable. Gays opened the door to it.
It's Biblical.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yes it does, but you don't realize it yet.
How does it hurt me? If it has anything to do with what you think your god will do to me, then don't bother answering. That discussion is not going to turn into anything useful.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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No, it's time to push back hard on the legitimization of homosexual marriage.
So.... what is your solution?

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Yes it does, but you don't realize it yet.
How? How does what 2 consenting adults do in their own lives have any effect on my marriage with my wife?

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It will on Judgment Day.

Those who pass judgement will also be judged.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Since gay marriage is here, it is time to allow heterosexual men to have multiple wives? Will America fight to allow men to have more then one wife since we marching? I mean as a straight man my rights are being denied.
Is it here? You know when a father or mother can be as happy when their children have a first date, first kiss, marriage,etc.. with a same sex partner as opposed to the established other gender then we can say that homosexual relationships/marriage are here. Parents always love their kids and understand when they fail in life but are also extraordinarily proud when they do well. If there is no tinge of disappointment in seeing their children as homosexuals then it will be normal and natural.
Concept above applies to much more than just homosexual marriage.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post
I've been married to one woman for 36 years, she has 7 personalities and I can tell you it's not that much fun.
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Originally Posted by jimazee View Post
Families of the future...a simple model.

Joe marries Ann, Sue, Bob
Ann marries Joe, Sue, Mia
Sue marries Joe, Ann, Ted
Bob marries Joe, Tim, Ida
Mia marries Ann, Phil, Jeb
....etc

Multiple kids are born to each woman. Sorting it all out will be fun.
You folks are funny.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Government has taken over marriage to use it as a tool to gain power.

Like marriage is a right or something.


Having a mate is a right, marriage is a privilege given to you by your GOD. If Government is your GOD, so be it.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I'd suggest the government get out of all kinds of relationships. This includes divorce, child support etc. Let it all be handled in civil courts. Marriage relationship is totally then based on the contract that the "married" couple make when they "marry". Maybe we should go so far as to eliminate all laws that give any rights or privileges to married folks, and therefore no penalties to those who are married.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:27 AM
 
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OP this is BS. First off marriage is not a religious thing, if some want to surround their marriage with a religious ceremony that is their choice, but its a contract between two people. If you want to believe in a mythical god that started marriage that is your choice, but its as stupid to say that as to say, because you believe that two men or two women can not marry as to say since I believe that god created the earth two men or two women living together can not buy or sell land. Its just that stupid. Its a contract between two people just as selling land or buying land is a contract between two people. To deny them that right to have a legal agreement is wrong headed and stupid. If you want to preach it from your pulpit then knock yourself out. But to act on it to deny others their right is never ever gong to prevail. You neo cons have chosen some dumb hills to die on, and die on them you will. Abortion, Gay rights, war on women, man your going to be relegated to the corn field soon.
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