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It will be interesting to see if Republicans in other states have learned their lesson on this. Similar bills have popped up in a bunch of states with GOP legislatures (Kansas, Utah, Oklahoma, Georgia, Missouri, Ohio, and perhaps a few others). It is already DOA in Kansas and Ohio, but remains to be seen if it will gain any traction anywhere else.
They won't do this one, but the Republicans have a whole bag full of similar stuff to toss out there. I have heard that some of them are even proposing getting rid of marriage as a way to stop gay marriage.
I just saw on the local news that members of the LGBT community were celebrating the veto by holding a drag queen contest in front of the state House offices. You gotta love this country. You really do.
The Bill was not about LGBT, that was just the catalyst for protest. Brewer vetoed it because the Bill allowed any business owner to avoid a lawsuit based on state anti-discrimination laws so long as they held a deep religious reason. Translation, you can refuse service by claiming you have a deep religious belief against dark skin people, or women who’s heads are not covered, a person with a confederate flag on their jacket, men with beards, women with beards, a person with a weapon, someone without a hoodie, and fat old white men who spend their whole life as professional politicians. This was not only a "gay" thing, it was an ‘open the floodgate’ thing.
Read the bill and show me where it has even one mention of gays, homosexuals, lesbian’s transgender... No, it doesn’t specify any person or group; it was not about who was refused, it is about the person doing the refusing ability to claim a deep held religious belief as the reason. In essence anyone could be legally denied service for pretty much any made up reason so long as the business claims it's based on their personal deep religious belief.
Answer me this, how is selling something to a homosexual a violation of your religion? Did I miss that part of Leviticus?
its not just the selling of goods and services, its the type of services and goods. for instance there are many that have religious opposition to gay marriage, and thus dont want to cater to gay weddings. and that is their right to do so, even under current arizona law. the law that brewer vetoed would not have changed that, except to make it harder to refuse services under religious exemption. but since the talking heads dont want to actually read the law, just like sb1070, they make the claim that the bill is anti-gay. and then the liberals start spreading the lies of the talking heads, instead of educating themselves.
its not just the selling of goods and services, its the type of services and goods. for instance there are many that have religious opposition to gay marriage, and thus dont want to cater to gay weddings. and that is their right to do so, even under current arizona law. the law that brewer vetoed would not have changed that, except to make it harder to refuse services under religious exemption. but since the talking heads dont want to actually read the law, just like sb1070, they make the claim that the bill is anti-gay. and then the liberals start spreading the lies of the talking heads, instead of educating themselves.
Three cities in AZ, Tucson, Phoenix, and Flagstaff, have ordinances banning discrimination against gays. About 1/3 of the states population lives in one of those cities. These would have presumably been trumped by the new law. I expect that in the coming weeks, many more of the cities will enact similar ordinances. It may be a while before the state legislature comes around, if ever. It wasn't just the "liberals". Virtually everyone outside of the Christian extremists were aghast at this bill. It was something to see in a state where apathy is more typical.
Three cities in AZ, Tucson, Phoenix, and Flagstaff, have ordinances banning discrimination against gays. About 1/3 of the states population lives in one of those cities. These would have presumably been trumped by the new law. I expect that in the coming weeks, many more of the cities will enact similar ordinances. It may be a while before the state legislature comes around, if ever. It wasn't just the "liberals". Virtually everyone outside of the Christian extremists were aghast at this bill. It was something to see in a state where apathy is more typical.
thats nice, but i wasnt talking about local laws, but rather STATE laws.
It will be interesting to watch if some conventions and major sports activities stay away due to repeated instances of Az representing viewpoints not consistent with their business model.
My hunch is this will be Az's last Super Bowl for at least another decade. The other venues are issue free, from the standpoint that they do not offend major economic subsets of America.
Read the bill and show me where it has even one mention of gays, homosexuals, lesbian’s transgender... No, it doesn’t specify any person or group; it was not about who was refused, it is about the person doing the refusing ability to claim a deep held religious belief as the reason. In essence anyone could be legally denied service for pretty much any made up reason so long as the business claims it's based on their personal deep religious belief.
The Bill's sponsor, Steve Yarbrough, admitted it was targeted at LGBTs:
Bill allowing discrimination on religious grounds is offered
Sen. Steve Yarbrough, R-Chandler, said the measure is aimed specifically at preventing what happened in New Mexico, where courts said a gay couple could sue a photographer who refused to take their wedding pictures. But Yarbrough said his legislation could also be interpreted to allow motels with vacant rooms to refuse to rent to gays.
It will be interesting to watch if some conventions and major sports activities stay away due to repeated instances of Az representing viewpoints not consistent with their business model.
My hunch is this will be Az's last Super Bowl for at least another decade. The other venues are issue free, from the standpoint that they do not offend major economic subsets of America.
At least 1 major convention (the Hispanic National Bar Association 2015 convention in Phoenix) has apparently already been cancelled over the stupid law proposal. Had the governor not vetoed the legislation the economic fallout to Arizona would have been SEVERE. NO ONE other than homophobes liked the law.
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