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Old 02-28-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Of course Tribe said that, he's as far left as little barry s.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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Sure there is.
The uninsurables can now get coverage.
Individuals can now get group rates and benefits.
No lifetime limits on pay outs.
HC plans have to payout 80% of collected premiums on patients.

These attributes are all good for me and mine.
My wife and I have much better and broader coverage along with much lower OOP's.
My daughter now has good coverage, no one would take her before. And her husband who would have gone without has a good policy at low cost.
Wait wait wait.....and please correct me if I am wrong. Aren't you a doctor? Because according to many on this board, the ACA only benefits freeloaders and leeches. How could and intelligent, dedicated individual ever take part of a social program that benefits them? And I am pretty positive that due to your pay scale, you would not qualify for subsidies (and please correct me if I am wrong)

I guess it is hard for them to understand that there are everyday HARD WORKING people are benefiting from this law. Now do I think the ACA is perfect. Absolutely not. But its better than what we had before and we should strengthen what good has been created for the ACA and fix what is wrong with it.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Wait wait wait.....and please correct me if I am wrong. Aren't you a doctor? Because according to many on this board, the ACA only benefits freeloaders and leeches. How could and intelligent, dedicated individual ever take part of a social program that benefits them? And I am pretty positive that due to your pay scale, you would not qualify for subsidies (and please correct me if I am wrong)

I guess it is hard for them to understand that there are everyday HARD WORKING people are benefiting from this law. Now do I think the ACA is perfect. Absolutely not. But its better than what we had before and we should strengthen what good has been created for the ACA and fix what is wrong with it.
No, no subsidies.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:34 PM
 
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No, no subsidies.
And yet you still benefit from the ACA, as a patient who is extremely familiar with the realms of medicine and how its financed. That's funny, I am familiar with another bright intelligent individual in Medical school who is also benefiting from the ACA w/ out subsidies

Im sure many right wing individuals will react just like below in regards to the above


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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There are many good things about Obamacare. The first one we benefited from was the 80% had to go to healthcare. We were paying $12,800 we got several thousand dollars back the first year. The next year $2,000 with no premium increases. Our yearly premium decreased instead of the over $1000 a year increase we were getting before that law took affect. It is good because covers those with pre-existing conditions, there is a yearly cap, no limit and the subsidies helps those who can't afford it.

Is Obamacare what I thought it would be Nah to much work.... faulty website..... high deductibles .... lack of choice in drs. and hospitals and in my state it is $18,000 for a couple in their 60's if they don't qualify for a subsidy. Over $62,040 you don't get any subsidy which isn't a lot of money in my state where property taxes are over $8000 and rent for a small apt is at $1500 and that is cheap. Make $62,000 and you would be paying less than $8,000 with the subsidy. Move across state line it is $7800 with no subsidy. I understand why some are happier with their crappy $10,000 policy. Until they have a pre-existing condition, until the insurance company doesn't pay, or you have hit your limit that $10,000 policy looks mighty good next to the $18,000 policy you may never use because of the high deductible. So people are still falling between the cracks and there are still people who can't afford it. Those who have employer based insurance you don't have a clue. If Obamacare or something wasn't done soon your employer would have cancelled offering insurance or he would have passed the cost on to you until you couldn't afford. You aren't aware like those who buy an individual policy how much it was costing your employer.
I have friends who were anti Obamacare. They had insurance through his wife's job while he was getting paid a little extra on his job because his employer didn't have to cover him for insurance. They thought it was great. She had breast cancer, he had gallstone, kidney stones and 2knee replacements. Insurance covered it all. Then the employer started charging for the husband started at $100 a month increased to $800. Then the policy changed to 80% 20% because it was just to expensive for the employer. The husband develops kidney stones goes to the ER and has to have them removed. He is shocked how much he has to pay. All these years he thought everyone who went to the ER who didn't have insurance didn't have to pay so he decided he wasn't paying he didn't have the money. The collection agent started calling... and they don't stop.... finally he talked to the hospital who accepted a reduction in cost and a payment plan. Obamacare sounds good to him now as his health deteriorates and he realizes he may not make it to 65 to get Medicare. Then there is my sister who has excellent health care through her husbands job. Who is worried about what will happen to their insurance. Then Obamacare kicked in that 26 year olds can stay on their parents policy. Now she likes Obamcare her son was in graduate school and getting kicked off their family policy. The school policy is very basic her son has health issues and they were concerned about the cost of an individual policy. They are still concerned about their insurance plan but they are grateful that Obamcare allows her son and her next two children to stay on their family policy until they are 26. By then her husband will be able to go on medicare and her being a couple of years younger who was worried she wouldn't be able to afford an individual policy when her husband retired will now be able to get Obamacare.


It needs work for sure but it is a start.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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I doubt it. That would be a long, long term plan if it's true.

Maybe Obamacare was just bad? Maybe it was just broken because it's coming from the Government which can't handle it?

If anything this would scare more people away from single payer. The Government screwed up before and now they want to be in charge of our health care? I don't think so.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I see that we all missed the fact that the income levels are based on your adjusted income, Go back and check out healthcare.gov again, you may be surprised.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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And yet you still benefit from the ACA, as a patient who is extremely familiar with the realms of medicine and how its financed. That's funny, I am familiar with another bright intelligent individual in Medical school who is also benefiting from the ACA w/ out subsidies

Im sure many right wing individuals will react just like below in regards to the above.
Of course I do, as I go from an individual to a grouped/community rating. Our co pays, deductibles and max OOP's are so much lower. Plus we get some 'freebies' with preventatives and screenings. So starting this week we begin getting a bunch done that we've been putting off for a while. (why Kaiser stayed away from the first year)

Just our two colons alone will save us about $5K over our pre-Obamacare policy.
Then there's labs, x-rays and some MRI's that I need done. Back and neck.
And my wife's labs and f/u on her lymphoma.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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If anything this would scare more people away from single payer. The Government screwed up before and now they want to be in charge of our health care? I don't think so.
Not that there are no screw ups, but Medicare for all would have been way simpler. Not that I espouse that.
But as a primary care Medicare provider for nearly 40 years now I have had and seen less problems from both my and the patients side. Of course surgeons and specialists may very well differ from my experience and opinion.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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You still have the Tea Party on Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, and Mediciad for Seniors. Thank god we have that last line of defense that wont let us slip into government health care. Keep "Gubbermint out of Medicare" should be a battle cry that should live for time immemorial.
You missed "mobility scooters," "oxygen tanks," "the VA" and "Republicans."

It's nice to know that some things never change. Had the person that posted after you not quoted your post, I never would have known just how consistent you are over time. You're my rock, borregokid. You'll always be there, and you'll always be whining about the TEA Party, Medicare, Tricare, etc. WTG!
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