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Cliffside Malibu treatment center reports that 80% of the drug addicts that are admitted for rehab started off using marijuana.
And?? I bet if they asked about alcohol too, not just drugs (as I'm assuming was the case), that number would be more like 99%. Everyone I know, including myself, used alcohol as their first drug - in my case it was even sanctioned by the synagogue, as I was REQUIRED to drink wine at the age of 13. Guess alcohol leads to pot use, then?
Of course, it's been explained time & time again to you that correlation does NOT always equal causation... but you are clearly being intentionally obtuse, as nobody could be this thick-headed. Here, I'll say again what I said to you before: If marijuana was a guaranteed (or even highly likely) path to hard drug use, why aren't more than half of Americans hard drug addicts? Stats show anywhere from 40-60% have at least tried marijuana, so by your logic we should be a nation of majority junkies. But we aren't, so you are wrong.
I'm not really familiar with this source, but it goes along with everything else I've read on the subject...
"Despite 70+ years of criminal prohibition, marijuana still remains widely popular among Americans, with over 102 million Americans (41 percent of the U.S. population) having used it during their lifetimes, 26 million (10 percent) having used it in the past year, and over 15 million (6 percent) admitting that they use it regularly. (By contrast, fewer than 15 percent of adults have ever tried cocaine, the second most ‘popular’ illicit drug, and fewer than 2 percent have ever tried heroin — so much for that supposed ‘gateway effect.’)"
And?? I bet if they asked about alcohol too, not just drugs (as I'm assuming was the case), that number would be more like 99%. Everyone I know, including myself, used alcohol as their first drug - in my case it was even sanctioned by the synagogue, as I was REQUIRED to drink wine at the age of 13. Guess alcohol leads to pot use, then?
Of course, it's been explained time & time again to you that correlation does NOT always equal causation... but you are clearly being intentionally obtuse, as nobody could be this thick-headed. Here, I'll say again what I said to you before: If marijuana was a guaranteed (or even highly likely) path to hard drug use, why aren't more than half of Americans hard drug addicts? Stats show anywhere from 40-60% have at least tried marijuana, so by your logic we should be a nation of majority junkies. But we aren't, so you are wrong.
You can try to deny the facts and data I post, but it wouldn't be wise. Everyone you know is how many people compared to 310 million in the country? Maybe 0.000000000000000000000001%?
Here is another fact: According to a report printed in the Reader's Digest, a youngster 12-17 years old who smokes marijuana is 85 times more likely to use cocaine than one who does not.
You can try to deny the facts and data I post, but it wouldn't be wise. Everyone you know is how many people compared to 310 million in the country? Maybe 0.000000000000000000000001%?
Here is another fact: According to a report printed in the Reader's Digest, a youngster 12-17 years old who smokes marijuana is 85 times more likely to use cocaine than one who does not.
I know a large number of my friends smoked when we were 17. Now granted, most of them I haven't followed their lives but from what I do know, very few of them ever moved on to cocaine.
And facts aren't facts simply because they are claimed to be on the internet.
I'll bet you that 99.9% of those who have used cocaine drank alcohol first.
You can try to deny the facts and data I post, but it wouldn't be wise. Everyone you know is how many people compared to 310 million in the country? Maybe 0.000000000000000000000001%?
Here is another fact: According to a report printed in the Reader's Digest, a youngster 12-17 years old who smokes marijuana is 85 times more likely to use cocaine than one who does not.
I shared some actual FACTS above, which clearly state that over 102 MILLION (41%) Americans have reportedly smoked marijuana - and that is just counting those who've admitted to it, while the actual numbers are probably even higher. My link also shows that only 2% of Americans have used heroin, and less than 15% cocaine. So your numbers are the ones that don't add up! I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but if youngsters who smoked marijuana were 85x more likely to use cocaine, the number of cocaine users would be much higher than I quoted.
So yeah, I'm not just basing this on my personal experiences and friends... I am basing this on facts, while you have yet to prove any of your claims. On this and the other similar threads, your primary source has been "Reader's Digest." If that's the best you can come up with, I'd say you are grasping at straws here - and there is nothing to dispute, unless I missed some other post where you presented us with legitimate and relevant data. So far all I've seen is you claiming that it's a gateway drug, which has been disputed time & time again, or that it's not healthy. To the latter I say "who freaking cares?" Lots of legal products are unhealthy, usually even more so than pot, and yet I don't see you picketing to make them illegal.
Also, why do you keep bringing up adolescents? We're talking about legalizing pot for ADULTS, not adolescents, so the laws really wouldn't change for them. Kids will either follow these laws or not, just as with alcohol despite the 21+ age limit, so how would legalizing for adults affect them? It wouldn't, and those of us over the age of 21 should not be restricted because your (hypothetical) kid decides to use. As a 37 year-old myself, I should be free to do whatever I want with my body. Period.
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I know a large number of my friends smoked when we were 17. Now granted, most of them I haven't followed their lives but from what I do know, very few of them ever moved on to cocaine.
And facts aren't facts simply because they are claimed to be on the internet.
I'll bet you that 99.9% of those who have used cocaine drank alcohol first.
every single person I know stared with alcohol and prescription pain killers, pot came later.. and not one of them does cocaine.. all just drink alcohol or smoke pot or both..
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You can try to deny the facts and data I post, but it wouldn't be wise. Everyone you know is how many people compared to 310 million in the country? Maybe 0.000000000000000000000001%?
Here is another fact: According to a report printed in the Reader's Digest, a youngster 12-17 years old who smokes marijuana is 85 times more likely to use cocaine than one who does not.
alcohol and weed are not legalized for kids some kids will do drugs no matter what!!!! legal or illegal..
Allright, allright.....pull the plug. It was an interesting experiment, but it's just not working.
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some kids will do drugs no matter what!!!! legal or illegal..
