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Old 03-01-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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Putin sure is taking advantage of his greater flexibility. Putin is asking his parliament for permission to use Russian troops in the Ukraine and he is flexing his muscles. What is Obama going to do about it, after all? Draw another red line in the sand? We all know how that works. If they go there, this belongs on Obama's back.

Good thing Putin has Snowden there to fill him in on America's national security classified information.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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Newsflash! You are wrong. Neither China nor Russia have been "gaining more power over the years."
Lol...of course they have. Lots more power.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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I tell you what petition your state's senators and congressmen/women to go to war with russia than we'll see how well that works out. Maybe we'll elect cheney to be present so he could show us all how STRONG AND MANLY he is while he sends off our men and women to a stupid and ill thought out war just so he can appease the knuckly dragging masses of this country who are so backwards in their thinking and so lack in history as to not understand how delicate things like politics are. Unless you'd like obama to start a war WITH RUSSIA a country which by the way CRUSHED NAZI GERMANY. Than please tell us all what you and the rest of the might right winger warrior would do ? Go ahead I'm waiting as are everyone on this board ? Please continue TELL ALL OF US WHAT YOU WOULD DO ?
If you had a high school reading comprehension level it would be clear to you that I think it is:

#1 Incompetent of Obama to chastise Romney for correctly pointing out that Russia is a geo-political threat.

#2 Incompetent of Obama to draw a line with Russia in the Ukraine.

#3 Not even remotely worth fighting Russia over anything at the moment.



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Know what really shows weakness?

Going into 2 different countries and showing a complete inability to pacify either of them.
Another diversion away from precious Obama's incompetence.

Yes, Bush and Obama get brought up hand in hand. 2 peas in a pod. The only difference is that Bush doesn't turn you on, so you only support Obama as near infallible. While I recognize that they both are failing.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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And to add to that having a history of other countries going in there with the same idea and failing miserably too.
Correctamundo.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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It took you 5 posts into this thread to finally admit the fact that Obama was wrong and Romney was correct.

Don't you think it harms our country when people excuse lies, incompetence, and failure simply because the guy is a dreamy political leader of your party? Both parties have the sheep, Obama seems to have the largest flock.

Exactly! Romney was on top of it and ready to send horses and bayonets in!
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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Correctamundo.
It's a shame that Obama didn't learn from Bush's lessons esp. relating to Afghanistan. The country that no one including the US could pacify.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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Obama drew a line...I bet he folds as he should...because he shouldn't have drawn a line to begin with.

Obama incompetence.
What line was that?
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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Exactly! Romney was on top of it and ready to send horses and bayonets in!
Diversion using Obama's false rhetoric.

You don't know what Romney would have done. We do know what Obama has done - including drawing another line in the sand...is that not saber rattling?

We do know that Romney said it was wrong for Obama to offer Putin more flexibility after the election and we do know that Obama was wrong for mocking Romney when he correctly pointed out that Russia was a geo-political threat.

Divert away -- but Obama is incompetent.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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What line was that?
A line that Ukraine government can not be violent against its citizens - which was passed without notice:
Obama on Ukraine: ‘There will be consequences if people step over the line’

A new line that Russia will pay costs if it uses military troops in the Ukraine - Obama and Biden have also said that Ukraine's territorial integrity must be kept intact -- sounds like they may have to modify that to Russia can have Crimea.:
President Obama warns Russia to stay out of Ukraine - CNN.com
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Lol...of course they have. Lots more power.
China, for example:

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the problem really is that observers of China have bought into the Chinese view that China is a superpower economically, militarily, politically, and therefore the United States should it treat it as such. But the fact is that China is far from a superpower in any of these realms. It remains a relatively weak economic power and certainly a weak military and political power, and the United States treats it as it is: a significant regional power with a great many weaknesses, and when it threatens American interests, the United States is quite happy to slap it back.
Agenda: With George Friedman on China | Stratfor
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