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View Poll Results: Should Obama go to war with Russia over Putin’s actions?
Yes 17 7.02%
No 225 92.98%
Voters: 242. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-02-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Would economy could take because of this.

 
Old 03-02-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Actually, we take care of too much business instead of minding our own business.

Confront a bully over what? The Ukraine?

If we are seen as having a weak military, tell me...why is that?

Could it be that we invaded two nations in recent years and we've been completely ineffective in both of them? Couldn't pacify Iraq, and can't pacify Afghanistan.

So really, why should Putin be afraid of us?

These are your words:


You're implying that Reagan would've been so tough and scared Putin into reconsidering.

But what did Reagan do in Beirut?



Standing up to a bully has to be backed up by something.

You willing to go to war over the Ukraine? I'm not.
Showing some backbone and having some intestinal fortitude is what leaders do.

You are so enamored of the bike helmet and mom jeans wearing community organizer that you forget what a real man does in real men situations.

Clinton signed the defense treaty. Now America has to back up its word or put on a metaphorical sundress.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online
 
Old 03-02-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Some humor


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYrgaS5vbQc
 
Old 03-02-2014, 07:43 PM
 
Location: North America
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Hitler declared war against the United States.

Of course, i realize that Hitler has to enter every argument these days.
Hitler was also, at the time, killing millions of Jews but who cares, right?
 
Old 03-02-2014, 08:58 PM
 
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ALL THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YES ARE DISGUSTING PIECES OF ... !!!!!!!!!

Totally insane.. (All Obama Supporters I assume ... YOU CANT EVEN SEE WHAT HE IS DOING TO OUR COUNTRY!!)
 
Old 03-02-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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Hitler was also, at the time, killing millions of Jews but who cares, right?
We didn't go to war with Germany because Hitler was perpetrating the Holocaust.

That played no role.

We only went to war with them because they declared war on us.

So attempting to pull heartstrings over the Holocaust is silly on this topic. It's beside the point.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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Showing some backbone and having some intestinal fortitude is what leaders do.

You are so enamored of the bike helmet and mom jeans wearing community organizer that you forget what a real man does in real men situations.

Clinton signed the defense treaty. Now America has to back up its word or put on a metaphorical sundress.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online
I'll opt for the metaphorical sundress...thank you very much.

But you're free to strap up and head to the Ukraine if you want to.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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ALL THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YES ARE DISGUSTING PIECES OF ... !!!!!!!!!

Totally insane.. (All Obama Supporters I assume ... YOU CANT EVEN SEE WHAT HE IS DOING TO OUR COUNTRY!!)
Your assumption would be incorrect. From the comments those who want intervention think Obama is a pu**y and they want a strong military that the world will fear.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Anyone who says this has no problem with the Holocaust.
(yawn)

Course in Logic 101
 
Old 03-02-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
Showing some backbone and having some intestinal fortitude is what leaders do.

You are so enamored of the bike helmet and mom jeans wearing community organizer that you forget what a real man does in real men situations.

Clinton signed the defense treaty. Now America has to back up its word or put on a metaphorical sundress.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online
Except that; it was a coup, and the Ukrainian parliament violated the constitution by stripping Yanukovich of power, so technically, Yanukovich is still the legitimate president of Ukraine, and has requested assistance for his country. This is sort of the issue that everyone has forgotten, or is obtuse to because it intervenes with their political views.

I thought the US was all for democracy and freedom, yet supports people to overthrow an elected president? The election was declared fair by international observers. If Yanukovich was conducting illegal actions, then they should have taken the legal steps to remove him from power, as happens with civilized countries.

The US invaded Haiti to restore Aristide after a coup, and the US intervened in Libya, the Balkans, and invaded Grenada to "protect Americans". Russia's entering Ukraine is just as legitimate, if not more, than many of the US's excursions.
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