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And people wonder why the AGW alarmists persist even in the face of science that tells us they are wrong. So as usual, "follow the money".
"So far, the most interesting file I found in the "documents" directory is pdj_grant_since1990.xls which shows that since 1990, Phil Jones has collected a staggering 13.7 million British pounds ($22.6 million) in grants."
So he has collected money in grants? And the issue with this is? All scientific research relies on grants and funding to be done, research ain't free.
And the money will continue, so long as what he publishes (or says) is convenient to those who fund it.
You libs opened the door to that argument, since you constantly argue that all opposition is funded by "big oil". Well, your pet theory is invalid because it's funded by big government.
]And the money will continue, so long as what he publishes (or says) is convenient to those who fund it. [/b]
You libs opened the door to that argument, since you constantly argue that all opposition is funded by "big oil". Well, your pet theory is invalid because it's funded by big government.
That's how it works. As long as he keeps their viewpoint the money will continue to flow.
There's no more "science" in this. It's been politicized and there are businesses in the wings waiting to make profits off this.
You want them to work for free and beg for alms in the street? Meanwhile......
Through an analysis of the financial structure of the organizations that constitute the core of the countermovement and their sources of monetary support, Brulle found that, while the largest and most consistent funders behind the countermovement are a number of well-known conservative foundations, the majority of donations are "dark money," or concealed funding.
The data also indicates that Koch Industries and ExxonMobil, two of the largest supporters of climate science denial, have recently pulled back from publicly funding countermovement organizations. Coinciding with the decline in traceable funding, the amount of funding given to countermovement organizations through third party pass-through foundations like Donors Trust and Donors Capital, whose funders cannot be traced, has risen dramatically.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-12-koch-brothers-reveals-funders-climate.html#jCp
Conservative billionaires used a secretive funding route to channel nearly $120m (£77m) to more than 100 groups casting doubt about the science behind climate change, the Guardian has learned.
The funds, doled out between 2002 and 2010, helped build a vast network of thinktanks and activist groups working to a single purpose: to redefine climate change from neutral scientific fact to a highly polarising "wedge issue" for hardcore conservatives. Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks | Environment | The Guardian
And the money will continue, so long as what he publishes (or says) is convenient to those who fund it.
You libs opened the door to that argument, since you constantly argue that all opposition is funded by "big oil". Well, your pet theory is invalid because it's funded by big government.
No science research is done for free, though there is nothing wrong with investigating where the money comes from.
If a scientist tells me cigarettes are healthy and their funding comes from the tobacco industry, I would question the results. Though if several scientists from different areas also came to the same conclusions, then that would have a different reaction.
You want them to work for free and beg for alms in the street? Meanwhile......
Through an analysis of the financial structure of the organizations that constitute the core of the countermovement and their sources of monetary support, Brulle found that, while the largest and most consistent funders behind the countermovement are a number of well-known conservative foundations, the majority of donations are "dark money," or concealed funding.
The data also indicates that Koch Industries and ExxonMobil, two of the largest supporters of climate science denial, have recently pulled back from publicly funding countermovement organizations. Coinciding with the decline in traceable funding, the amount of funding given to countermovement organizations through third party pass-through foundations like Donors Trust and Donors Capital, whose funders cannot be traced, has risen dramatically.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-12-koch-brothers-reveals-funders-climate.html#jCp
Conservative billionaires used a secretive funding route to channel nearly $120m (£77m) to more than 100 groups casting doubt about the science behind climate change, the Guardian has learned.
The funds, doled out between 2002 and 2010, helped build a vast network of thinktanks and activist groups working to a single purpose: to redefine climate change from neutral scientific fact to a highly polarising "wedge issue" for hardcore conservatives. Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks | Environment | The Guardian
What were you saying about "hiding the money"?
There has been a lot of money spent on trying to downplay global warming which should also be questioned but I doubt the OP has a problem with that because the results match what the OP wants to hear.
No science research is done for free, though there is nothing wrong with investigating where the money comes from.
If a scientist tells me cigarettes are healthy and their funding comes from the tobacco industry, I would question the results. Though if several scientists from different areas also came to the same conclusions, then that would have a different reaction.
You absolutely do not tell the truth, even about yourself.
You refuse to believe there's any valid science involved in the refutation of global warming.
So he has collected money in grants? And the issue with this is? All scientific research relies on grants and funding to be done, research ain't free.
Grants have "conditions"; like, outcomes, for instance.
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