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Old 03-03-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Here is a headline about the ultimatum.

Ukraine: Russia Delivers 'Assault Storm' Deadline

 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by All American NYC View Post
Obama is making himself look like a fool.
That red line keeps getting invisible.
You're contradicting yourself. Regardless of any red line, what should Obama do differently? You said we should keep out of it. Except for some diplomatic responses, the same as Europe has done so far, we are effectively keeping out of it.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:27 AM
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How should the US have handled this? What is your solution?
Crickets.....
I don't think people here can say what they would have done and what they would do going forward without the info available to Obama. But it is pretty easy to see some mistakes Obama has made, as an example, he did not have to flaunt the gay parade at the Sochi Olympics, he didn't have to tell Ukraine that he has their back when it really meant he will make a couple of lame warnings. He didn't have to make a big announcement recently on deep military cuts. He is not going to take military action. The United States is war weary and will not tolerate that. Putin knows that.

If he wants to lead the west, he should lead the west, if he wants to provide support for someone else to lead, perhaps the EU, he better let them know, and maybe he is doing that. But, at the moment anyway, it looks like Putin is riding roughshod all over Obama leaving Ukraine to defend themselves. Since they have no way to do that, they will likely quickly capitulate.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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You're contradicting yourself. Regardless of any red line, what should Obama do differently? You said we should keep out of it. Except for some diplomatic responses, the same as Europe has done so far, we are effectively keeping out of it.
No we are not. We have threaten Russia....or should I said Obama has threatened Russia.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So what would YOU do if you were President? Enlighten us all to how you would handle the situation.
Are you kidding?

They would pee in their pants.

Then hand over the keys to their hero, Putin Of The Bare Chest.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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No we are not. We have threaten Russia.
Threatened them how?
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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We are having a difficult time taking care of ourselves. As such, why would we compound our problem(s) with someone else's?
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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A cold, empty chair! That'll show'm Barack! You go you big bad tough guy!

And if you were put in the Presidents position on Ukraine you would do what?
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Keep out of it.

Community organization skills don't deter Putin in the slightest.

Crickets......
So, if I am reading these posts correctly, when you cons make fun of Obama in the form of 'while the Ukraine burns, Obama's on the golf course' or some other such hyperbole, what you are really saying is Obama is doing the correct thing.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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Where did I "make fun" of the President Obama?

All I have ever voiced is that, this is not our problem and we should stay out of it.
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