When does the U.S. Intervene? (Congress, Iran, middle east, regular)
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Yup. Nothing good ever comes out of democracy.. Damn constitution
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Originally Posted by texdav
This is a UE versus Russian influence problem;nothing to do with US ;really. EU is in a no win situation with Russia supplying so much energy to EU nations in form of natural gas ;not easily replaced or cheaply. Russia certainly has the capability of the EU in military and certainly unified leadership. The EU is 27 countries all having to debate endlessly on such things;especially the cost.
With Russia sending its forces into Crimea region of Ukraine, When does the United States exactly get involved? Do we start pumping troops into Ukraine? Or do we let the Russians invade Ukraine and then have the world sanction the crap out of Moscow?
What will most likely be the outcome of all this?
Supposedly already did. Helped fuel the overthrow with $5 Billion
With Russia sending its forces into Crimea region of Ukraine, When does the United States exactly get involved? Do we start pumping troops into Ukraine? Or do we let the Russians invade Ukraine and then have the world sanction the crap out of Moscow?
What will most likely be the outcome of all this?
What happened in 2008 when they invaded Georgia? The US and the world reaction was the same as now, and the conflict did not spread. There was no need to rush into WW-3 over Georgia, and there is no need to rush into it over Crimea.
The best way to deal with the current crisis in Ukraine is to sit down and talk to the Russians, if this doesn't achieve any positive results then the next step is economic sanctions and the freezing of Russians assets overseas. Other options include making Russia an international pariah by banning the Russian Football Team from this years World Cup in Brazil and putting pressure on FIFA to move the 2018 World Cup from Russia, a move which would definitely hurt Putin and indeed Russian pride.
What we can not afford to do is starts fighting each other over Ukraine, as it's simply not worth it, and it should be noted that Russia has the backing of China in this dispute, so this could very easily escalate beyond a mere regional conflict.
When the IMF starts their loan program and demands austerity from western Ukraine, that's when the real fireworks start.
Britain took an IMF Loan back in the Mid 1970's, although in the end we didn't take the full loan. There is no magic wand when it comes to economic crisis and debt, so the Ukrainians can take the IMF loan or leave it, the decision is in their own hands.
Britain took an IMF Loan back in the Mid 1970's, although in the end we didn't take the full loan. There is no magic wand when it comes to economic crisis, so the Ukrainians can take the IMF loan or leave it the decision is in their own hands.
Oh they'll take the 'loan', as they won't be able to pay the bills without it. Look it up.
Ask Greece how it's working out for them.
I am more than aware of Ukraine's level of debt and the Greek crisis related to the Euro. However there is no magic solution, and as I have pointed out Britain has been on the verge of bankruptcy twice in recent history, once following WW2 when we were rationing food, fuel and even clothing well in to the 1950's and once in the 1970's when we had to take an IMF loan and the country was in an economic mess with stagflation and industrial unrest. Whilst the 2007/8 Banking crisis also hit Britain very hard.
The Ukrainians and Greeks may have to endure some hardship but they are not rationing food yet and there cities haven't been destroyed like much of Europe following WW2, when London alone had 1.5 million homes destroyed by the Luftwaffe.
The Ukrainians might have a bitter pill to swallow but they will survive, and I am sure they have been through worse in the days of the Soviet Empire.
The correct question is, "Why should the United States get involved?"
Correctly...
Mircea
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