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Originally Posted by pknopp
This all could be a good lesson all around but it's highly unlikely as it seems that few want to actually learn anything.
We could learn that the U.N. is nothing but a cesspool of fraud. We could learn the fallacy of thinking we can change things. One might think that Putin would have learned from his country going into Afghanistan. We learned nothing from it so I'm not sure why we would expect him to though.
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What Putin learned and is applying today is the lessons of American response to his invasion of Georgia in 2008, under George Bush.
I've read every thread on the Ukraine here in C-D and I'm convinced that you Obama haters could care less what happens there. You're only in it to use the issue to endlessly hammer the president once again. Some of you claim he isn't doing enough. Other's claim he's doing to much. Still others say he should have said nothing........nothing at all. How would that look to the rest of the free world if the greatest power on the planet said nothing, gave no official response, while Russian troops invaded the Crimea?
Ukraine is just a forum for you to express your hate at the president in the white house.
Reality? I'll give you a dose of reality.
By the time the world knew what was happening, the deed was already done. We woke up on Friday and Spetsnaz had flown the deposed president to Russia, taken over the airports in Crimea and manned the border checkpoints between Crimea and Ukraine. All before coffee. Factor in the fact that Russia had 150,000 troops massed on the eastern Ukraine border, ostensibly on exercises, and you have a classic bloodless takeover of a territory.
What would you have had our president do?
That question has been asked over and over of the Obama haters in every Ukraine thread on C-D and each time the question has remained unanswered.
All you can come up with is what the president shouldn't have done, which after all is said and done, is wake up this morning, still breathing.
The president has come out with a statement that there will be repercussions for invading Ukraine. He also has signaled through his administration that those repercussions will not include military action of any kind.
He has also aligned the US with Great Britain, Poland, Germany, France and the UN in the matter.
He is saying to them all, "we're with you in principle, but you'll have to do all the heavy lifting if you want to use drastic measures."
I for one applaud the president for his deliberate and measured actions and keeping our nation as far away from this fight while still supporting the western nations. Look at the poll at the top of the thread. Nobody, except a few uneducated diehards want us to intervene militarily in Ukraine, so we are all in agreement for a change. You don't need to pillory the president this time. The issue is settled with bipartisan consensus. You won. I won, everyone wins, except those that pray for armed conflict and killing and those who have an unnatural hate towards anything Obama..
You all can go back to foaming at the mouth and attacking the president for whatever the trumped up fantasy of the moment is. I know reason and logic will fall on deaf ears and the usual hate fest will continue.
Carry on..........