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Old 03-03-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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You hear all this conspiracy talk about thousands of people fighting off felons with their registered weapons. And "the mainstream media ignores it". That's certainly possible, but if you injure or kill someone with your private handgun, how does all knowledge of it go missing? Are most states just excusing the shootings with no legal process? Every place I've ever lived would bring the incident to a trial to establish by due process "justifiable homicide". And where a prosecutor decided NOT to put a trial on the docket, there still would be a record in the police files. I just spent a few minutes trying to find statistics on gunshots claimed to be self-defense. So are gun activists saying all such records just mysteriously disappear? Even for that there should be names and dates that the FBI could receive from whatever source to establish a history in the national crime information network.

Or, alternate theory, its a cult belief that something exists whether a palpable record can be found or not.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:51 PM
 
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Or, alternate theory, its a cult belief that something exists whether a palpable record can be found or not.
Huh, belief without any proof that can be found...where have I heard that before?

I agree, people should not believe things unless there is proof. It's almost a cult believe how some people do.
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Old 03-03-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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huh, here are a few news stories for you two. 162 pages, 30-40 stories per page. It could still be a conspiracy getting all these newspapers to publish all these stories, no?
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Old 03-03-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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Here's a list of DGU's that is kept up to date.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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This is "self defense"? Concealed-carry Milwaukee gunman who claimed self-defense is sentenced
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Crime is understated by the authorities
sadly what you have said is true
someone tries to kill u and u kill them instead
first thing that happens Is YOU go on trial
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Nice tactic of ignoring thousands of legitimate cases and cherry picking one to suit your gun bashing agenda.
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Crime is understated by the authorities
sadly what you have said is true
someone tries to kill u and u kill them instead
first thing that happens Is YOU go on trial
That generally is true in anti-gun locales. In most of the country, if you shoot someone in legit self-defense you usually won't have a problem w/ authorities.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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That compilation also lists "bad DGU" in which people claim self-defense but it is not upheld. Those have "bad DGU" in the subject line.

It's called intellectual integrity, recognizing the bad with the good.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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Crime is understated by the authorities
sadly what you have said is true
someone tries to kill u and u kill them instead
first thing that happens Is YOU go on trial
That generally is true in anti-gun locales. In most of the country, if you shoot someone in legit self-defense you usually won't have a problem w/ authorities.
To use Florida as an example, authorities in Florida can not arrest a person unless there is probable cause to disprove the self-defense claim:
776.032(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
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