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Old 03-04-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Originally Posted by Alec Bachlow View Post
We can't as human beings possibly like EVERY thing. To refuse service to someone because they find your behavior unpleasant or at worst bad - is like forcing someone to like strawberry when they prefer chocolate. IF this gay stylist has any compassion...tolerance and human sympathy he will serve anyone despite their personal beliefs. People tolerate and accept gays...maybe it's time gays tolerated and respected those who disagree with them?
Tolerance and respect are two-way streets... and considering this act was CLEARLY in response to the proposed AZ bill, you are basically blaming the (intended) victim here. That's like saying a holocaust survivor should be "tolerant and respectful" towards a former Nazi soldier, to give an extreme analogy. Sure, it would be nice to be the "bigger person," but should they be shamed if they're retaliatory instead?

 
Old 03-04-2014, 05:54 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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How do you know this? And by the way, disagreeing with homosexuals as they demand "their right to marry" does not make one "anti-"gay."" It means we disagree that marriage should be anything other than between a man and a woman. Period.


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Ohhhhhhh, so this homosexual hair dresser is free to discriminate against the governor! I get it.

So, "equality" exists for some people, but not for others. A person can refuse service to another person if that person does not belong to the right group. A baker cannot refuse to offer his services to two homos because they are a privileged group. How nice.

Is that how "equality" works? Thanks for clarifying how liberals view "equality." I knew this "equality" meme was bull!
Some people are more equal than others, and with the current administration that extends to ideology/ political thought. Those who differ in their views are running the risk of being scrutinized, to put it mildly.
We've seen demonstrated in so many ways recently how the power of the IRS or the DOJ can be misused.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Yea right. Find one homosexual that doesn't support gay marriage.
Just one? I can find quite a few, as could you if you tried...

I’m Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage | Public Discourse
Gays Against Adam and Steve - The Good Men Project
French Homosexuals Join Demonstration Against Gay Marriage (possibly a questionable source, but you can fact-check the specific names given)
https://www.facebook.com/GaysAgainstGayMarriage
Gays Against Gay Marriage | Just another WordPress.com weblog
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:00 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Some people are more equal than others, and with the current administration that extends to ideology/ political thought. Those who differ in their views are running the risk of being scrutinized, to put it mildly.
We've seen demonstrated in so many ways recently how the power of the IRS or the DOJ can be misused.
This has always been the case, though, just in a different direction... and now that the "majority" is becoming the "oppressed," they are none too happy about it! While I don't normally rejoice in anyone's suffering, I do admit it's somewhat amusing to witness (especially considering my background).
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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Sorry, you're not allowed to do that. Law says so.

Stylist to anti-gay marriage governor: No haircut for you - U.S. News
Kill him!
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:07 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
The correct term is HETEROSEXUAL or REGULAR. "Straight" is for rulers and yardsticks!
Pretty sure I have seen you argue against gay marriage based on definitions (of marriage), if not I have seen that argument used by anti-SSM folks on the forum... and according to both the Harper Collins & Random House dictionaries, among others I'm sure, the word "straight" actually IS defined as heterosexual.

straight [streyt]
adjective, straight·er, straight·est.
38. Informal.
a. a heterosexual.

Straight | Define Straight at Dictionary.com

So now is the time you choose to ignore dictionaries, and make up your own definitions? Oh, and "regular" has no definitions related to sexual orientation - unless you think gay people have irregular bowel movements? LOL

Regular | Define Regular at Dictionary.com
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:20 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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This has always been the case, though, just in a different direction... and now that the "majority" is becoming the "oppressed," they are none too happy about it! While I don't normally rejoice in anyone's suffering, I do admit it's somewhat amusing to witness (especially considering my background).
I find that sentiment troubling, especially as you say in view of your background, that you would be amused that any group is oppressed.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Here
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And by the way, disagreeing with homosexuals as they demand "their right to marry" does not make one "anti-"gay."" It means we disagree that marriage should be anything other than between a man and a woman. Period.
This needs repeating. I would rep you again but I’ve used my limit for now.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I find that sentiment troubling, especially as you say in view of your background, that you would be amused that any group is oppressed.
No, I didn't say that - and thanks for the rep point, lol.

Since nobody is actually being "oppressed" (note I used quotation marks in both the original & this post) in the situation I was referring to, I am not amused at oppression. What I meant was that it's amusing to see how people react when THEIR bigotry is thrown back in their face, which was clearly the point this hairdresser was trying to make. What group are they oppressing, Governors from Arizona?

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Old 03-04-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Muslim taxi driver can refuse Christian passenger with can of beer.
Muslim truck drivers can refuse doing their job because truck contains alcohol.
Homosexual hairdresser can refuse to cut hair of anti homosexual person.
Christian baker must bake cake for homosexual couple.
Christian photographer must take photos of homosexual couple.
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