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Old 03-05-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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We don't have to pretend, here's the letter from the IG clarifying his testimony. If 100% of the the groups with "tea party" in their name deserve scrutiny then certainly 100% of the groups with "progressive" in their name need to be scrutinized.
Your opinion is noted.

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After reading that letter if you are still going to try and defend the IRS the only conclusion one can draw is you have your head buried in the sand.
I don't have to defend anybody. They have proven quite up to the task of defending themselves.

IRS 'Scandal' Fades As Documents Show Scrutiny Of Democratic Groups, ACORN Successors

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The **** is going to hit the fan, there is no if, only when.
Any....Day...Now.....

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Old 03-05-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Gosh, another right winger that hates the Constitution.



So, she cannot incriminate herself.....

Is infact admitting she did something criminal.



What is the 2nd amendment for, if not to protect the freedom of men, and secure the constitution.

Execution on the spot. Duels for the elite.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Got it right, no rocket scientist needed to figure this out. I don't care who or what you are, when you plead the damn 5th you plead it for one reason and one only Period.
James Madison is weeping as we speak.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: MI
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The thread is about Lerner..
Would the public know of Lerner if not for issa and his witch hunts? All of issa's hearings are a joke to him. He bragged about having a hearing every week when the gop took over the house. He's wasting our tax dollars.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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Insert "duh" here..
So if its so dam obvious, why do you continue to confuse the two?
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And immunity does not protect her from prosecution either. It only protects here from any later prosecutor using the testimony she offers under immunity against her. She can be offered immunity and testify her ever loving heart out... and still be prosecuted if a crime was committed..
I stopped here, its obvious you dont know what you are talking about.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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Your opinion is noted.
You opinion would be that conservative groups deserve scrutiny and liberal one don't?

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I don't have to defend anybody. They have proven quite up to the task of defending themselves.
This would be contradictory to what Lois Lerner herself has stated, what other officials at the IRS have testified too and what the IG report says. Are they all wrong?

FYI, a Huffpo article is hardly a comparison to the letter from the IG. LOL
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It must be nice to live in your fantasy land bubble.
Well, regardless of whether it is a fantasy land or not, yes. It is very, very nice where I live. Colorado is awesome.

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A Simple question, DID ISSA ASK HER RELEVANT QUESTIONS?
Relevant to what? To pursuing an actual issue or a witch hunt? No to the former, yes to the latter.

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IF YOU DON"T think the IRS and Lerner did ANYTHING wrong, it is YOU who is the hopelessly naive one!
Oh? So then where's the prosecution? Where's the grand jury indictment? Where's the evidence of any actual crime?

I read a lot of frothing indignation... but it pretty much ends there.

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Old 03-05-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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Got it right, no rocket scientist needed to figure this out. I don't care who or what you are, when you plead the damn 5th you plead it for one reason and one only Period.

Most of us know the reason.
The 5th is very important. Our system is set up on the idea that the government must prove their case against you, not that you make it for them. Nobody should be compelled in any way to help the government make their case.

This goes way beyond any one person, this goes to the foundations of the country. Is it highly likely she knows she did things that would land her in trouble if she states them? Yes but the Constitution clearly grants her the right to not help out here.

That said, as I already noted, they should have been prepared to have moved on beyond this today. Restoring the faith in the government is more important than getting any one person. Dragging this out to keep it in the news to closer to election time doesn't help.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So, she cannot incriminate herself.....

Is infact admitting she did something criminal.
Maybe in Russia. Maybe in North Korea.

In the United States of America it doesn't actually work that way.

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What is the 2nd amendment for, if not to protect the freedom of men, and secure the constitution.
You don't know? Why not? It says so right there in the Constitution. A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state.

Not that it has anything to do with this thread.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So if its so dam obvious, why do you continue to confuse the two?
Assumes facts not in evidence.

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I stopped here, its obvious you dont know what you are talking about.
LOL... you stopped because you almost crapped your pants when you realized I was right.
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