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Old 03-08-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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These folks don't realize if it weren't for "global warming" or I should say the "greenhouse effect" the earth would be a big ball of ice. I guess that is what they want.
Or perhaps they are comfortable with the current climate and are averse to this sort of change.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Exactly.

There are enormous quantities of naturally occurring greenhouse gasses trapped in ice-like structures in the cold northern muds and at the bottom of the seas. These ices, called clathrates, contain 3,000 times as much methane as is in the atmosphere. Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as carbon dioxide.

Now here's the scary part. A temperature increase of merely a few degrees would cause these gases to volatilize and "burp" into the atmosphere, which would further raise temperatures, which would release yet more methane, heating the Earth and seas further, and so on.

There's 400 gigatons of methane locked in the frozen arctic tundra - enough to start this chain reaction - and the kind of warming the Arctic Council predicts is sufficient to melt the clathrates and release these greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Once triggered, this cycle could result in runaway global warming the likes of which even the most pessimistic doomsayers aren't talking about.


Methane Burps: Ticking Time Bomb
Has this ever happened before?
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Or perhaps they are comfortable with the current climate and are averse to this sort of change.
Averse to what sort of change..................um maybe "climate change". Well I got news for you that has been happening since the earth was formed..........man or not on the big blue ball. Some just want to steal money for what occurs naturally............shocker....... it's liberals who want to do that.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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Has this ever happened before?
I've read that methane was responsible for one of the many mass extinctions. Life goes on, though admittedly not as diverse as in a previous era.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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Averse to what sort of change..................um maybe "climate change". Well I got news for you that has been happening since the earth was formed..........man or not on the big blue ball. Some just want to steal money for what occurs naturally............shocker....... it's liberals who want to do that.
That's right, there is money to be made in this stuff.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Money to be stolen..............mostly from the poor.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:43 PM
 
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Money to be stolen..............mostly from the poor.
...and middle class and even other nations.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Most of the people interested in and worried about those things have nothing to gain from it.
Money should simply be irrelevant when it comes to the future of mankind.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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Most of the people interested in and worried about those things have nothing to gain from it.
Money should simply be irrelevant when it comes to the future of mankind.
Too bad, people care about money.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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It's man-contributed global warming and climate change.

Yes, adding CO2 does contribute (however insignificant) to climate change, and so does paving asphalt.

Also, it should be well known that climate models are in their infancy. I would not treat them as reliable.

Finally, this is becoming my favorite phrase:

"Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate"



Feel free to try and dispute these points.
Could you post a reputable source for your above statements?
But you can't post a reputable source (because your above statements are untrue.)

Chad.
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