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Old 03-09-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I also live in big Ag country.
Most of the ones working out in the fields don't own the big farms and ranches.
It's your hobby farmer that shows up at Farmer Markets but they don't own and farm 500-1000 acres.

Might be different out by you but that's how it seems to be working here in Texas.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FARMER'S MARKETS WHEN I SAY THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN PART TO GIVE FARMERS A MARKET FOR THEIR PRODUCTS!!!!! If you live in Big Ag country you should know that. Another poster thought "giving farmers a market for their products" meant Farmer's Markets! Farmers grow corn for products made of corn and animal feed; soybeans, ditto, wheat, ditto; hay, ditto. The school lunch program provides a market for these crops, as food is made from them. Jeez! Who would have thought that would need to be explained?

Most of the farmers in Illinois owned at least part of the land they farmed, when we lived there. The situation appears to be the same in Nebraska, where DH is from. And these farmers LOVE, LOVE, LOVE their crop subsidies.
Senate passes five-year farm bill cutting subsidies for some | Fox News

One time when we were visiting in Nebraska, John McCain was all hopped up about the popcorn subsidy, which benefits many farmers in Nebraska.
John McCain burned about popcorn provision - POLITICO.com

If you (and 3~Shepherds) don't like these links, there are plenty more to be found.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I was always amazed with number of obese Midwesterners. Could this be a reason why?
Have you ever been to the Midwest? It's basically the best of all worlds!
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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Why did you think I mentioned the number of obese Midwesterners ?



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Have you ever been to the Midwest? It's basically the best of all worlds!
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default More than 1 MILLION students stopped buying school lunches after Michelle Obama's overhaul

Yep.

They graduated from HS.

No more free lunch, boys and girls.

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Old 03-09-2014, 09:50 PM
 
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I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FARMER'S MARKETS WHEN I SAY THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN PART TO GIVE FARMERS A MARKET FOR THEIR PRODUCTS!!!!! If you live in Big Ag country you should know that. Another poster thought "giving farmers a market for their products" meant Farmer's Markets! Farmers grow corn for products made of corn and animal feed; soybeans, ditto, wheat, ditto; hay, ditto. The school lunch program provides a market for these crops, as food is made from them. Jeez! Who would have thought that would need to be explained?

Most of the farmers in Illinois owned at least part of the land they farmed, when we lived there. The situation appears to be the same in Nebraska, where DH is from. And these farmers LOVE, LOVE, LOVE their crop subsidies.
Senate passes five-year farm bill cutting subsidies for some | Fox News

One time when we were visiting in Nebraska, John McCain was all hopped up about the popcorn subsidy, which benefits many farmers in Nebraska.
John McCain burned about popcorn provision - POLITICO.com

If you (and 3~Shepherds) don't like these links, there are plenty more to be found.
Eat this link as you don't know what your talking about. This thread is about school lunches. It was mentioned that contracts with big ag get most of that money and you are talking about popcorn subsidies for some reason. Why because you are wrong.

Contracts with the Big Three Companies and their Role in the NSLP

The US food service contracting industry has been centered on three source companies: Aramark, Compass Group, and Sodexo. With a combined annual revenue of about $43 billion in 2009, the school lunch sector is highly concentrated and dominated by these three giant multinational companies. In total, the eight largest companies hold 75 percent of school contracts. These companies do not strictly provide food services to schools. Aramark is not only the world’s third largest contract food service provider in theUnited States, but also the second largest uniform supplier. Ten percent of school lunch providers have 100 or more employees, compared with two percent of the entire food service industry. The equally concentrated supply chain for food products magnifies the size and power of these companies.

School Food, Inc.: The Contracting of America
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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Have you ever been to the Midwest? It's basically the best of all worlds!
Folks actually say hi to each other and talk and shoot the ****. Of course this is flyover country to the left.........they think we are all gun totin, bible thumpin, racist rednecks.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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I also live in big Ag country.
Most of the ones working out in the fields don't own the big farms and ranches.
It's your hobby farmer that shows up at Farmer Markets but they don't own and farm 500-1000 acres.

Might be different out by you but that's how it seems to be working here in Texas.
That's how it seems here in Idaho. Most of the people have 5-20 acres and bring their goods to the market. Not sure, many ranchers sell hay or would want to haul it to a farmer's market. That's the last place I'd buy hay when I owned horses, the cost alone to buy it that way isn't worth it.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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FWIW, I asked by wife who is a teacher about the status of food waste. They have setup a share table where kids can place items they don't want from the prepackaged meals and can take items they do want. By the end of the day almost all the food is gone. She also talked about the unripened, frozen fruit that the district keeps serving to kids. She and some of the other teachers, collect it, ripen it and redistribute it to their students.
This is very smart idea, just shows when left to think for ourselves there is a solution.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's how it seems here in Idaho. Most of the people have 5-20 acres and bring their goods to the market. Not sure, many ranchers sell hay or would want to haul it to a farmer's market. That's the last place I'd buy hay when I owned horses, the cost alone to buy it that way isn't worth it.
I've never seen hay sold at Farmer's Markets.

When I need hay I buy local and I go to their place to pick it up in the barn.
And they are small producers as well.

Not many of the small producers get any help from the government.
They deal direct with the consumers and trade/barter among themselves.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FARMER'S MARKETS WHEN I SAY THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN PART TO GIVE FARMERS A MARKET FOR THEIR PRODUCTS!!!!! If you live in Big Ag country you should know that. Another poster thought "giving farmers a market for their products" meant Farmer's Markets! Farmers grow corn for products made of corn and animal feed; soybeans, ditto, wheat, ditto; hay, ditto. The school lunch program provides a market for these crops, as food is made from them. Jeez! Who would have thought that would need to be explained?

Most of the farmers in Illinois owned at least part of the land they farmed, when we lived there. The situation appears to be the same in Nebraska, where DH is from. And these farmers LOVE, LOVE, LOVE their crop subsidies.
Senate passes five-year farm bill cutting subsidies for some | Fox News
Sorry! Guess I did misunderstand you.

This program is probably part of the reason for overweight children. All that you listed in bold people are either allergic to it or there are side effects. Hard to control children-adult diseases when our children are told this is "healthy food", but not all ingredients are healthy.

Since they added corn to dog food more dogs have skin/ear issues.

By the way what would they put "hay" in school lunches....or is this a Jeez question?

Did you know this was in the farm bill.........com/story/10354-its-now-a-federal-crime-for-you-to-attend-a-dog-fight]It's Now A Federal Crime For You to Attend a Dog Fight
Amazing we have to have a bill that addresses this it should just be common sense, but why in a Farm Bill?

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One time when we were visiting in Nebraska, John McCain was all hopped up about the popcorn subsidy, which benefits many farmers in Nebraska.
John McCain burned about popcorn provision - POLITICO.com
I'd say he was gettiing this one right!
Indeed, it all began as an almost advisory opinion: the secretary of Agriculture “may” do such and such on popcorn’s behalf. But with little public notice, a “technical correction” to the bill in May changed “may” to “shall” in what’s become a full-fledged campaign to qualify popcorn growers for what could be millions in revenue insurance subsidies.

Read more: John McCain burned about popcorn provision - POLITICO.com
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