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Old 03-08-2014, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I honestly believe no child should be exposed to homosexual "parents". I don't think this is psychologically healthy for a child.
I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

 
Old 03-08-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The ability to sponsor your spouse for an immigration visa is a natural individual freedom?
The ability not to testify against your spouse in a criminal trial is a natural individual freedom?
The ability to shop at a base commissary if your spouse is in the military is a natural individual freedom?
The ability to have a lawsuit heard for wrongful death against your spouse's murderer is a natural individual freedom?

With individual freedom, you already have all of those and more.

It is the government, that has made it a privilege. Do you thank them for creating a privilege of something you always had before?
 
Old 03-08-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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Why is it ALWAYS the anti same-sex group that brings up incest, bestiality, etc.? Seems your group is the one with the problem.
I was waiting for one of them to compare it with incest. They always do. As for polygamy, I have zero issue with it.

I was also waiting for people to say about how parents being gay is somehow unhealthy for a child.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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With individual freedom, you already have all of those and more.
Bull****.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 11:09 PM
 
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if we really want to look at what the governments role has been, it warrants more than just a simplistic approach that "lives in the moment". It requires a real look at the history.

european monarchies and governments, and their colonial understudies established and maintained the institution of slavery. to praise any government for the abolishment of slavery is akin to praising a wife beater for his wife not having any visible bruises.

natural law can not be governed. marriage predates any modern religion or government. if the government wants to deviate from natural law, then it should create a new institution to achieve its goals, leave marraige alone.

"Give unto Ceasar that which belongs to Caesar", but marriage is ours, not obama's or any other tyrannts

The origin of marriage had nothing to do with religion or government. It had to do with property. You quoting Cesar just proves this.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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Uh, no. The marriage as an institution has been always associated with religion. People were cohabiting together long before that but the concept of sanctity of marital bounds came with religion. Try again.




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The origin of marriage had nothing to do with religion or government. It had to do with property. You quoting Cesar just proves this.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 11:39 PM
 
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Uh, no. The marriage as an institution has been always associated with religion. People were cohabiting together long before that but the concept of sanctity of marital bounds came with religion. Try again.
No it has not. It had to do with property. Religion took over later.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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How do you know that?




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No it has not. It had to do with property. Religion took over later.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 11:53 PM
 
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How do you know that?
I know the history of marriage and it had nothing to do with religion.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 12:00 AM
 
Location: CA
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What is the reasoning behind gay marriage?

Legalization (and normalization) of sin.
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