What is the reasoning behind gay marriage? (Christmas, examples, program)
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I do not believe they are 'born that way'. Culture, upbringing, peers all play a part in that. But they are not 'born that way'.
Yes, they are born that way. The gay brain is wired differently, and science shows epi-genes/hormones cause the change in fetal development. Culture/upbringing plays no role, since gays are found in every culture/family type, even those extremely against gays, like Iran or ultra-religious households.
How about you actually ask a gay person and stop believing lies.
The argument has always been over how we provide these legal protections. Some wish to simply roll gay marriage into traditional marriage, others want to offer the same protections under a civil union.
This is far from the truth. As far as I know, every state that he enacted a prohibition of same sex marriage has also prohibited other arrangements that provide the same legal benefits.
none of the above post has anything to do with the question "what is the reasoning behind guay marriage?", other than to possibly reinforce the point that was made at the beginning of the thread, that the homosexual offenders (Corinthians 6:9-10) are bent on exacting vengeance on society for perceived mistreatment.
How many times are you going to throw in Corinthians in your arguments? It's meaningless and you don't understand it anyway. Do you think that adds to your post?
Anti-gays who demonize gays will be judged in the way they judge gays and Jesus will declare he doesn't know you (Matthew 7)
Yes, they are born that way. The gay brain is wired differently, and science shows epi-genes/hormones cause the change in fetal development. Culture/upbringing plays no role, since gays are found in every culture/family type, even those extremely against gays, like Iran or ultra-religious households.
How about you actually ask a gay person and stop believing lies.
I did....I was told from 3 gay people.....it is a choice they made.
I am sorry that you are struggling with your family and your faith. I can't see what opening up civil marriage to all has to do with your personal family relationships or your faith? If it is so brittle as to be affected by something so remote, then IMO you have a lot of work to do.
Sure go ahead and not see it for what it is.
Are we not being pushed to a more secular society ?
The family structure has been changing since LBJ's great programs went into effect.
Yeah..deflect it all back to me personally because you don't want to deal with it.
Government will pick up the pieces.
Government will take over for the family pillar and give you money and take care of your kids.
Government will take over for the religion pillar and tell you what is right and wrong via legislation.
"It takes a village" remember ? The village is the government.
You can't debate that the 2 pillars are not crumbling ?
Are we not being pushed to a more secular society ?
We've always been secular. I'd argue we're more religious than we used to be, since Christian Fundamentalism didn't exist when this country was founded, and the religious right wasn't influencing politics.
In order to have a LEGAL CIVIL MARRIAGE (that is what we are discussing) you do in fact need to get that piece of paper from the government.
ANYONE can have a personal ceremony with anybody, or anything they want, no one is stopping them.
Agreed.
Two corporations can come to a legal agreement to share property and wealth, and have it protected by government.
If I'm a man with no other commitments or obligations, and my old army buddy and I want to live together, and share our wealth and property together, it's no one else's business. Why shouldn't we have our desires in this arrangement protected by law? It's not like we are asking for anything else from anyone.
Two corporations can come to a legal agreement to share property and wealth, and have it protected by government.
If I'm a man with no other commitments or obligations, and my old army buddy and I want to live together, and share our wealth and property together, it's no one else's business. Why shouldn't we have our desires in this arrangement protected by law? It's not like we are asking for anything else from anyone.
In states where SSM is legal you can. Go for it. Plenty of heterosexuals marry out of convenience. What's the difference?
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