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Has anyone truly gotten to the bottom of the smiley face?
right up there with the birthers' "absolute proof of forgery", the "U.K.Lee" signature ( they believed it sounded out "ukulele")........ until verna k. lee ( "V.K.Lee" ) was found alive and well ( altho a little annoyed with pesky birthers ).
right up there with the birthers' "absolute proof of forgery", the "U.K.Lee" signature ( they believed it sounded out "ukulele")........ until verna k. lee ( "V.K.Lee" ) was found alive and well ( altho a little annoyed with pesky birthers ).
LOL... "annoyed" is one way of putting it. She actually called the cops on Zullo.
as far as the birther crap goes, its like the cop at your door, if you had anything you would be arresting me, not blathering on about it.
It's a good thing Zullo doesn't have the power to arrest anyone! If he coulda, he woulda.
Arpaio may be sloppy, but even he wasn't so sloppy as to allow his posse the ability to arrest anyone. Those badges he handed out may have looked all official and impressive, but didn't amount to doodley-squat.
Brian Reilly understood that right from the first, and he realized the consequences of some of the actions Zullo got him into. Reilly has a CCP, but he didn't start the investigation to become Zullo's bodyguard, and when he realized that was what Zullo was using him for, he got out for good. It had all started going south long before, and that was the final straw. Reilly wasn't going to allow possible criminal charges to be brought against him, and he was too honest to serve a crooked con man out to make a name for himself.
I actually feel sorry for Reilly, even though I'm his polar opposite politically. I believe him to be an upright man and a good citizen. He never started the investigation for purposes of self-aggrandizement, or fame, or for money. He just wanted to get some clear answers to his questions. That's righteous enough, as all of us who try to be good citizens all have some questions about something in our government.
He must still have his doubts, but he's honest enough to say outright that there never will be any great revelations forthcoming. That's a conclusion he must find depressing, but I believe his claim that he is a fact-seeker, despite what the facts may bring. I salute him for not becoming another conspiracy nut, and his courage. Joe Arpaio is not an easy man to get crosswise with.
I believe he got what he needed, even if it wasn't what he wanted.
Seeking the truth may not provide confirmation of what we believe, but most of us can live with an amount of uncertainty whether we like the results or not, once whatever truth there may be is gleaned. There are always things that will never have unquestionable truth, no matter how solid the evidence appears to be or not.
I thought of that, but it makes more sense for you to use someone other than Cassandra, since all of Cassandra's warnings were of true hazards, and the birthers warnings are of a more fantastical nature.
The mythical woman Orly, who spread warning of doom and destruction and wasn't taken seriously by anyone, even though not a single one of her predictions came true? It's a bit lacking in the mythos department, isn't it?
Arpaio may be sloppy, but even he wasn't so sloppy as to allow his posse the ability to arrest anyone.
Arapio should have been thrown in federal prison but the feds were gutless. They actually had enough material that if they decided to press charges they could have gone to trial and had several of his posse thrown in jail. Hell the man has convicted criminals working for him and he was wanting to put them in schools with little kids. The criminals that were in his posse had convictions for crimes against children including sexual assault and Sheriff Joe had given these guys guns.
It continues to be the truth, that President Obama politically is a moderate slightly left politician whose policies are fairly down the middle policies.
On what planet would that be true? Planet Moron?
The guy is an America hating Marxist, so far left, he'd need the Hubble telescope to even get a glimpse of the center.
The guy is an America hating Marxist, so far left, he'd need the Hubble telescope to even get a glimpse of the center.
LOL (and ignoring the explicit irony).... this from the guy who just tried to tell us all that the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution was a "promissory statement of the Federal government pertaining to United States debt."
That's almost as funny as your belief that you have magical metallurgical powers and can analyze the elemental composition of molten metal from a photograph, or that "thermic lances" have something to do with thermite.
Here's my argument why Obama has to be of US Birth: Money
If what you say is true and as easy to discern as your IT department seems to have done then why in the ever living hell would the GOP spend millions upon millions upon millions of dollars and never ever bring this apparently obvious evidence up.
If I'm the GOP I spend barely anything on the Presidential race, wait until the week before the elections and BAM! OBAMA IS A FAKE! Now you have Biden and whoever they can pull together at the last secon ...
I'm going to stop you right there, because the point is already clear ... but way off the mark.
Your point would be valid, if this illusory world of left-right politics was actually real. It's not. It is for your entertainment only ... let's you feel you have a say in the course of the nation.
You don't. One of the big clues that should have tipped you late bloomers off to the nature of the real world is how rabid the GOP main streamers are in attacking guys like Cruz.
Read my lips .... it's WWF wrestling ... it ain't real. They take freaking turns ... ok .. this time it's the red shirts, next time the blue ... and it's all just a game, and they play it just for you!
Wake the frack up already ...hasn't the question even dawned on you .. why, no matter who is in charge, the chit just keeps getting worse?
The end result of law are what, Poindexter? Let me give you a little hint .... it is often considered the stuff that makes the world go round ... and I'm not talking about gravity.
You're not talking about much of anything that is true. You are simply trying to dig yourself out of a demonstration of Constitutional ignorance so profound as to inspire wonder at your willingness to even show your face again.
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They are called Judgements!
Some are, and some aren't. In point of fact, the most common end result of law is compliance.
But now, let's give you more opportunity to hang yourself with the rope of your comprehensive clulessness. It's always fun to just let you talk and watch you make a total fool of yourself. Please, proceed.
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And what do said judgements offer? Remedies. What form does remedy most commonly appear? In the type of law we are talking about, which is commercial law or UCC,...
Gong!!!
There is nothing in this thread that has anything whatsoever to do with "commercial law." It is entirely and exclusively a discussion of Constitutional law and the relationship between States.
Let's continue in your willful violation of the first rule of holes and allow you to dig deeper still.
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the remedy is almost always compensatory, and the clause goes all the way back to the Articles of Confederation, prior to the Constitution. And the eitiology pertains to legal documents in the form of contracts and bonds, and is generally used in the context of government assurance of said bonds .... you do realize that public officials acting on behalf of the state must carry a bond ... judges too ... why do you suppose that is? To guarantee compensation for damages.
Let's go back again and revisit how utterly and completely into the mantle of the earth you have now dug your hole. Again... here is the text of the full faith and credit clause:
"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."
It discusses three things... only one of which has anything to do with "judgements" and even then only as a small subset of the category.
1. Public acts.
2. Records
3. Judicial proceedings
Guess what a birth certificate is, Poindexter? A record. Guess what the certification of a birth certificate is, Poindexter? A public act. And just for good measure, guess what the more than a dozen court decisions declaring Obama to be a natural born citizen are, Poindexter? Judicial proceedings.
Someday, you should actually take the time to figure out what the Constitution actually says, rather than waste all this bandwidth in a comedic equivalent of pretending that every word in every language was originally Greek.
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Now, the clause applies to states, enforced by federal law requiring them to honor legal judgements of other states.
Oops... you missed the "public acts" and "records" again. What might account for your profoundly compromised short term memory?
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This applies to legal documents also, but in and of itself does not guarantee legitimacy of claim by a non-judicial bureaucrat, nor does it require unconditional acceptance of non-judicial claims ... first, because each state operates rather autonomously in the area of internal bureacracy, and especially true with regard to births and their registrtion in Hawaii ... which was a feeding ground for people seeking illegitimate legal status in the United States about the time Obama is claimed to have been born there.
First and foremost, anybody with a genuine clue knows that the FF&C clause means the exact opposite of what you claim here. It means that the public acts and records of every single one of those "autonomous bureaucracies" are binding on all other states under the Constitution.
We'll note that it is merely a bilious birther lie that Hawaii "was a feeding ground for people seeking illegitimate legal status in the United States about the time Obama is claimed to have been born there." In actual fact, Hawaii had tighter controls and tougher laws to prevent such fraud than any other state in the union. Even better, they had tougher requirements than any other state in the union before they were even a state!
You are such a sucker. Is there any birther lie that you will not credulously lap up like a kitten?
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This is well documented, and is specific to Hawaii becoming a state less than two years prior to Obama's claimed birth there. It was a rather gaping loophole that many took advantage of, illegitimately claiming Hawaiian birth falsely. Which is likely why Obama Momma chose Hawaii as his birthplace.
Then go ahead... document it. Let's see it. Show us that you're not just blowing stuff out of rectal defilade again. And here... let me help you since we all know you have no clue whatsoever as to how you might even start.
Start with Act 96 of the Laws of the Territory of Hawai‘i, passed n 1911 and in force until 1955.
Then look at the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act47 of 1955. These were the laws in effect at the time of the President's birth.
Then pay additional detail to the State of Hawai‘i Department of Health Public Health Regulations that were in effect in 1961.
And finally, just to get a look at more than just the laws in place but exactly how they were policed and applied, look up the paper by Charles G. Bennett and George Tokuyama, entitled “Vital Records in Hawaii.” It was published in the Hawaii Medical Journal, Nov.-Dec. 1955.
Together, these will document (actually document, not just sputter and whinge like you've been doing) that the claim that Hawaii "was a feeding ground for people seeking illegitimate legal status in the United States about the time Obama is claimed to have been born there" is a bald faced, transparent and pathetic lie.
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When Alvin Onaka becomes a recognized member of the judiciary, his judgements would be binding on other states .... but as a state bureaucrat, not so much.
Dr. Alvin Onaka is the State Registrar of the State of Hawaii. If he says a record is authentic, every member of the judiciary is bound by the US Constitution to take his word.
See?
It still really, really, really sucks to be a birther.
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