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View Poll Results: Who benefits from the US-Israel relationship
America 2 3.23%
Israel 44 70.97%
Both benefit equally 11 17.74%
The Arab countries 0 0%
No one 1 1.61%
Other 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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And the invasion on Kuwait in 1990 was?
Israel pushed the US to intervene in Kuwait.

 
Old 03-15-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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So what?



Our reaction to it had plenty to do with Israel.
True
 
Old 03-15-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Israel pushed the US to intervene in K8.
I am not sure what your statement is based on but I doubt the USA would have intervened in Kuwait if it wasn't beneficial to American interests (such as oil).
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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I am not sure what your statement is based on but I doubt the USA would have intervened in Kuwait if it wasn't beneficial to American interests (such as oil).
All the wars in the middle east benefit directly or indirectly israel.
Israelis general openly calling for military intervention in Iraq,Lebanon,Syria.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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It is a totally one sided relationship. As a matter of fact, it can quite successfully be argued that the relationship has been detrimental to the US.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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Israel benefits since they receive free money, but the aid is also corporate socialism for US arms manufacturers since Israel buys some of their military gear from US. Also, Biblically speaking God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel. US has been pro-Israel and we are also the most blessed nation on the planet, while those countries who curse Israel live in misery. Co-incidence? I don't think so.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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Mostly the US, since it gets a multi-fold return on its investment in terms of military technology, a foothold in the mideast, war-time battle scenario testing of equipment and strategy it can then implement in other war zones in the mideast, intelligence on the ground in the mideast, improvements for pennies on the dollar on its advanced radar systems and tank defense gear, etc.

Israel is a loser because it is then beholden to US politicians, who force it to make decisions against its own interests and remove its freedom of movement; the 2006 lebanon war comes to mind, as does the repeated refusal of Bush to allow israel to bomb iran's nuclear weapons plants when it could have made a difference.

Overall, the US is the clear winner, and Israel is a loser.

One has to be an imbecile to believe that Israel has any control over its macro-military defense policy, those who claim otherwise have no clue.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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Since Israel is the recipient of billions of dollars taken from working americans and actually has more representation in our congress than the same workers, I'd say Israel wins.
Another example of why discussing this issue on city-data is pointless, the anti-israel posters can't even bring the slightest facts to the table, just moronic slogans and cheap insults.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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if we were already at war i could see your point. but we aren't.

having Israel as an ally just increases the chances we'll be dragged into a war in some godforsaken part of the world that has nothing to offer us.
Another historically clueless poster. When has a SINGLE US GI ever fought in an israeli war?

I know of lots of wars where russians, iranians and others have fought on the arabs side. I also know of many other countries who have received FAR more in aid than Israel, like a TRILLION US$ going to pay for the iraq war.

Or the fact that the US STILL in 2014 pays for 22% of the UN budget, when countries like china have an economy that approaches the US but contributes far less.

No complaints there, eh?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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Very true,it's more a burden than an ally.
Awesome deep thinker here. So when Israel starts selling its indigenously-developed advanced tech which is the best in the world in some areas - to ratholes/US enemies like china - will you still be complaining?

There are technologies in the field that US GIs are using RIGHT NOW saving US lives developed in Israel, but the armchair soldiers/strategists like yourself say "we don't need them..."

This is the weakest forum on the web when it comes to foreign policy issues.
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