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Old 03-11-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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What part of the constitution requires a person to serve another person contrary to their conscience and religious principles?
No part. But when you open up a business in a state, you agree to follow certain rules as laid out by the state otherwise you cannot operate a business there legally.

 
Old 03-11-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Do liberals here value the First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion?
Yes.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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What part of the constitution requires a person to serve another person contrary to their conscience and religious principles?
The Constitution doesn't. Statute does.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: California
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The only real problem are some people who try to score political or jesus points by MAKING A PUBLIC CASE for refusing this or that. In real life it's not actually an issue. When you get into a business of some sort you understand how things in this country work. If you don't then it's on you for being ignorant. If you are morally and personally against someone for any reason protected by the laws of the land again, that's on you. Deal.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Colorado law concerning the baker violated the baker's First Amendment rights.
No court has ever reached that conclusion. And based on prior court rulings re: discrimination based on other factors such as race or gender, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a court to do so.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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I'm sorry you don't understand the difference. It has been explained over and over on these threads. Hatred and discrimination is not protected. Your personal beliefs are protected insofar as you do not trample on the rights of others.
What "right" is spelled out that somebody has to bake you a cake? Show me that "right" you seem to think you have.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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What right does a person have under the U.S. Constitution to force another person to bake a cake for them against their conscience?
Sorry........you beat me to it........
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Can't answer the question?

So if my religious belief says that it is wrong to serve Jews, then I can refuse to sell items to Jewish people?
(just an example)
If you own a private business you can serve who you please. Why is that so hard to understand? If you **** off enough folks then your business will close. Simple stuff unless your a liberal. May not be good business but it is reality...........something you folks can't seem to grasp.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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If you own a private business you can serve who you please. Why is that so hard to understand? If you **** off enough folks then your business will close. Simple stuff unless your a liberal. May not be good business but it is reality...........something you folks can't seem to grasp.
Yes, if your business is private and only for a select few members then you indeed can pick and choose who you serve, but the instant you open it up to the general public you have to abide by anti-discrimination laws.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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Oh so you say you have to be a country club and that's ok? LOL

Your post makes no sense.
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