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Old 03-11-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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This is really not a party issue at all. Christie is a politician. Which means he succumbs to political pressure. Republicans bend over just like Democrats do when they get pressure from important (at least perceived to be) groups. Car dealers in big states are powerful. They don't want competition from Tesla, or any other dealer owned by a manufacturer.
Accept Christie has always gone out of his way to tout himself as a small government, take no BS from special interest groups, for the common man type of politician. Over the last couple of months it appears his facade is rapidly crumbling.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:44 PM
 
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I thought conservative that the government should keep their hands off business and not protect anyone. I guess it only works when it is not MY business the government should protect...



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Do you think much before you post? Texas unfortunately protects its car dealers like most states, regardless of who is governor or what party the governor belongs to.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:52 PM
 
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Why do car dealers need protection? If anything, they should be destroyed.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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I thought Texas was open for business...I guess that's only if you fill Perry's pockets.
Hahaha... Good one...
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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New Jersey has joined Texas and Arizona,Nevada and New Mexico in trying to force Tesla to sell through Car dealerships. All five states will now lose out on the chance of new jobs and a 5 billion dollar factory. Michigan could use it though.
New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here - Forbes
Republicans are so anti-business regulation. Why do they support regulating the sale of vehicles by only dealers?
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:06 PM
 
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Accept Christie has always gone out of his way to tout himself as a small government, take no BS from special interest groups, for the common man type of politician. Over the last couple of months it appears his facade is rapidly crumbling.
Exactly, he is just as much a part of the establishment, status quo politician. All the talk about saying it how it is, not succumbing to special interests etc is a bunch of bull.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:11 PM
 
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Nobody decided to follow the franchise model, it's the law kept in place by the rich and powerful car dealers lobby. You have to remember, Republicans ( and Democrats, too ) love the free market as long as it doesn't cost them money

Car dealership fortunes funded many political careers, from both sides of the aisle.



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There is absolutely no reason to as franchise owners already have a legal contract which gives them exclusive rights to a certain geographical area. Just because car companies decided to do this in the past doesn't mean new car companies, like Tesla, have to do it the same way. Notice how only three states have laws preventing direct sales (Texas, NC, and now NJ)? That's because such laws are completely unneeded due to existing contract law and the only reason to pass such laws is to limit or block competition.

That's par for the course for Republicans though; sell special tax carve outs and legalistic restrictions to monied interests who pay them bribes. It's absolutely the opposite of the free market.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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Exactly, he is just as much a part of the establishment, status quo politician. All the talk about saying it how it is, not succumbing to special interests etc is a bunch of bull.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:46 PM
 
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We are talking about something other than politics here, people. TAXES. It's sort of like some states object to Amazon selling to customers and not collecting sales taxes for the states. Well....can you imagine how much more in taxes a state loses from cars that are not having vehicle/luxury taxes on the sale of cars? Teslas aren't cheap, despite the subsidies. I can understand how a state would be reluctant to give up tax revenues when a factory waves "Ohh goodie, a CHANCE at having a factory", when you know that when setting up the factory, they will be negotiating with the state for a lot of other concessions.

Tesla is wanting to compete with car dealers in those five states, without competing on a level field. Like Amazon, but on a very large scale. A lot of local politicians are going to see this as supporting their local small business community over a large multinational.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:52 PM
 
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We are talking about something other than politics here, people. TAXES. It's sort of like some states object to Amazon selling to customers and not collecting sales taxes for the states. Well....can you imagine how much more in taxes a state loses from cars that are not having vehicle/luxury taxes on the sale of cars? Teslas aren't cheap, despite the subsidies. I can understand how a state would be reluctant to give up tax revenues when a factory waves "Ohh goodie, a CHANCE at having a factory", when you know that when setting up the factory, they will be negotiating with the state for a lot of other concessions.

Tesla is wanting to compete with car dealers in those five states, without competing on a level field. Like Amazon, but on a very large scale. A lot of local politicians are going to see this as supporting their local small business community over a large multinational.
Tesla would still be required to collect sales tax and remit the tax to your state of residence.
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