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Old 08-30-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What in the world...

Dr. Judy Wood earned a Ph.D. Degree from Virginia Tech and is a former professor of mechanical engineering. She has research expertise in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, deformation analysis, materials characterization and materials engineering science. Her research has involved testing materials, including complex-material systems, in the area of photomechanics, or the use of optical and image-analysis methods to determine physical properties of materials and measure how materials respond to forces placed on them. Her area of expertise involves interferometry in forensic science. She taught graduate and undergraduate engineering classes and has authored or co-authored over 60 peer-reviewed papers and journal publications in her areas of expertise.

Dr. Judy Wood, bio

What's up with the spacebeam claim ?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...yaO0UMS-1zFYKg

True, she at least has a background in Engineering, as opposed to English, Philosophy, Political Science and History or Humanities....although, as I said, a specialist in bioengineering in dental applications is a bit different than a specialist in building design and engineering

 
Old 08-30-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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True, she at least has a background in Engineering,
I don't know why you insist on saying she is not a material engineer.

Dr. Wood received her
  • B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering),
  • M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and
  • Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia.




The far fetched laser stuff, while ridiculous, has nothing to do with the rest of the story.
 
Old 08-30-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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I don't know why you insist on saying she is not a material engineer.

Dr. Wood received her
  • B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering),
  • M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and
  • Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia.




The far fetched laser stuff, while ridiculous, has nothing to do with the rest of the story.
Appeal to authority....that you like. Vastly more people with just as much education, and more experience, in the same field have come out against this. Including current experience instead of past experience because she was booted out because she is bonkers and wouldn't get help. However, her education and experience matters to you because she says what you like.

Also her theory is completely bogus (and insane). She says that there was something wrong with the government account, that you like, but the how it was taken down you don't. It's cherry picking parts of her ideas and ignoring what you don't like. It's saying part of what a lunatic is fine and the other is completely bonkers.

I prefer the people who score sane on all accounts, can provide evidence besides their word, and are backed up by the vast majority in the field. Instead of cherry picking one person, part of their theory, and the rest is the sign of mental illness.
 
Old 08-30-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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However, her education and experience matters to you because she says what you like.
The only reason why I pasted her resume is because your buddy claimed she was a dental engineer...I did not even quoted her name before he did. So don't speculate on other people's intentions. Still, if she did not have the credentials she has you would be saying she is unqualified to speak on the matter.

There is a whole list of very educated and credible people if you do not like that one professor.

I notice that no one has offered a valid response yet to what I said. You all prefer arguing about petty stuff and resort to name calling and straight up lies.
 
Old 08-30-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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It is amazing to see how many right-minded (as in correctly proper dutifully towing the line) will go to make those they claim to hate seem so stupid that they couldn't perpetrate something so very awful to get their deeds done.

Just goes to show how very dimly hypocritical so many are and how much they worship those who give them an easy life full of fake affluence as they snark away at them.

Cheers to ignorance! And my sympathy to that poor guy who finally realized the truth never, ever pays the bills (which is exactly what he learned).
 
Old 08-30-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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The only reason why I pasted her resume is because your buddy claimed she was a dental engineer...I did not even quoted her name before he did. So don't speculate on other people's intentions. Still, if she did not have the credentials she has you would be saying she is unqualified to speak on the matter.

There is a whole list of very educated and credible people if you do not like that one professor.

I notice that no one has offered a valid response yet to what I said. You all prefer arguing about petty stuff and resort to name calling and straight up lies.
No, it has been address many times and you just keep exclaiming they are lies, name calling, and "not valid" and hand waving them away. Including the most important part...they haven't been proven to be true in the first place. One cannot disprove a negative. That something is false that has no evidence it is true. Any more than you can disprove that eating dog crap cures cancer, the lock ness monster exist, or the world is controlled by shape shifting lizard people. This is logical reasoning 101.

Hurtling from point to point while ignoring rebuttals is called Gish Galloping.

Also, my buddy? Are we coworkers or something to you?
 
Old 08-30-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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No, it has been address many times and you just keep exclaiming they are lies
The Queen's claim that Silverstein wil pay for the rebuild of wtc was a lie and i proved it.

Workingclassman claiming that Dr Wood was actually a "dental engineer" ( really ) was a lie and I proved it.

Workingclassdude claiming that no mossad agents were arrested was another flat out wrong claim and i also disproved it.

Is that enough ?
 
Old 08-30-2014, 08:42 PM
 
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Dr Steven E. Jones, Phd in physics, former professor at Brigham Young University, finds military grade explosives in 9/11 dust collected on the day of the attack.

 
Old 08-30-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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Dr Steven E. Jones, Phd in physics, former professor at Brigham Young University, finds military grade explosives in 9/11 dust collected on the day of the attack.
oh please..why do you bring up DEBUNKED issues

jones was FIRED from BYU

jones found paint chips

this is what he says in one of his videos :

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We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
It's hard for me...or anyone with a modicum of common sense to take this report seriously when the items they based this report on were given to them by residents of Lower Manhattan almost SIX YEARS after the Towers fell. These samples were not kept in sterile environments by any stretch of the imagination and were handled by ordinary, non-scientist New Yorkers.


Referring to these samples, the report itself states the following:

The resulting spectrum, produced the expected peaks for Fe, Si, Al, O, and C. Other peaks included calcium, sul-fur, zinc, chromium and potassium. The occurrence of these elements could be attributed to surface contamination due to the fact that the analysis was performed on the as-collected surface of the red layer. The large Ca and S peaks may be due to contamination with gypsum from the pulverized wall-
board material in the buildings.

So by their own admission the scientists are saying that in SIX YEARS that the samples, which were hanging out in lay peoples' homes they MAY have been contaminated. Wow, really?

The paper also never actually says that material in question is nanothermite or even regular thermite...rather that...

These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere

it REMINDED them of a substance that no one aside for 9/11 conspiracy people apparently knows anything about. Can they conclusively say exactly what it is? Well...

We would like to make detailed comparisons of the red chips with known super-thermite composites, along with comparisons of the products following ignition, but there are many forms of this high-tech thermite, and this comparison must wait for a future study.

...not really. You see they can't really get their hands on this nano stuff because we're not sure it really exists. Ok. And further...

All these data suggest that the thermitic material found in the WTC dust is a form of nano-thermite

How incredibly conclusive! I have some suggestions of my own. Well at least they're not jumping to any conclusions right?

We make no at-tempt to specify the particular form of nano-thermite present until more is learned about the red material and especially about the nature of the organic material it contains.

Why bother making an attempt to actually identify this substance, right?

Well that's ok, at least we know for sure it's not paint chips right? Well of course not! Because...

we have shown that the red material contains both elemental aluminum and iron oxide

Oh. I see. There's iron oxide (rust) and aluminum in this mixture. There's no WAY that rust or aluminum could possibly have gotten into the Twin Towers. Except of course that the Twin Towers had tons upon tons of aluminum and every building in history that had iron it also had oxidized iron (rust) in it.

How totally convincing. It's stunning even! How could anyone ignore this incredibly conclusive evidence!

The material they found, that had been contaminated over six years, reminded them of nanothermite or regular thermite but probably nanothermite no really it's almost definitely the nano kind. Or it might be just regular paint. Except that it also has rust and aluminum in it. Which may be a result of the contamination or it may just be because those two substances are present in just about every structure in the history of construction.

What's even better though, is that the inconclusiveness of this paper (and it's really stunningly inconclusive) aside...it doesn't answer any of the following issues I've raised in my previous entries:

-How did they got 10 to 100 tons of this highly dangerous substance into three buildings right under the noses of the very people they were going to kill?

-How did they detonate this substance? Was it a timer? Remote control? Telepathy?

-How did they know exactly where the planes were going to hit in order to plant the explosives in a way that would make it seem that the structure of the building gave way right around the point of impact? Because that's what it looked like to me. Also that's what it looked like to the rest of the world.

-Perhaps most importantly...if this material is as highly explosive and reactive as everyone says it is, why didn't it explode as soon as it came in contact with the burning hot flaming jet fuel that exploded all around it? Why didn't the buildings collapse immediately after the planes hit? Did this substance just decide to wait to react to the fire?

-100 other issues I've brought up about this conspiracy.

Now it's not surprising that this paper doesn't deal with any of this...aside from the fact that the writers all live in a parallel universe where plutonium is available at every corner drugstore

thousands of engineers disagree withn you conspiracy loons

and the spheres...were paint chips...jones is a quack


wow 'dr' steven jones...a FIRED (from BYU) , ..'thinks' he finds a 'thermite' sphere...aka a paint chip...and you guys fall for that garbage

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Old 08-30-2014, 10:42 PM
 
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Dr Steven E. Jones, Phd in physics, former professor at Brigham Young University, finds military grade explosives in 9/11 dust collected on the day of the attack.
April 09, 2006
Dear Editor,

After reading in the Daily Herald the presentations made by Professor Steven E. Jones (BYU Physics) to students at UVSC and BYU, I feel obligated to reply to his "Conspiracy Theory" relating to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center (9/11/01).

I have studied the summary of the report by FEMA, The American Society of Civil Engineers and several other professional engineering organizations. These experts have given in detail the effects on the Towers by the impact of the commercial aircraft. I have also read Professor Jones' (referred to) 42 page unpublished report. In my understanding of structural design and the properties of structural steel I find Professor Jones' thesis that planted explosives (rather than fire from the planes) caused the collapse of the Towers, very unreliable.

The structural design of the towers was unique in that the supporting steel structure consisted of closely spaced columns in the walls of all four sides. The resulting structure was similar to a tube. When the aircraft impacted the towers at speeds of about 500 plus mph, many steel columns were immediately severed and others rendered weak by the following fires. The fires critically damaged the floors systems. Structural steel will begin to lose strength when heated to temperatures above 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel bridge girders are bent to conform to the curved roadway by spot heating flanges between 800 and 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. It is easy to comprehend the loss of carrying capacity of all the structural steel due to the raging fires fed by the jet's fuel as well as aircraft and building contents.

Before one (especially students) supports such a conspiracy theory, they should investigate all details of the theory. To me a practicing structural engineer of 57 continuous years (1941-1998), Professor Jones' presentations are very disturbing.

D. Allan Firmage

Professor Emeritus, Civil Engineering, BYU
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