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Swagger Quote:
"Both Ares Armor locations were raided today, in violation of a court order. This could get interesting"
That action probably seals the deal on the legality of the 80% receivers being legal. Too bad. That was a real good work around like the Slidefire or Fostech.
The raid signals that BATFE really want's to know where those receivers are and who has them. Just like the CZ sub kits they went after.
I hope Ares Armor comes out all right over all this. I've known a bunch of guys and small outfits who got under the BATFE eye. Some came out alright and others lost it all.
BATFE agents know they arn't liked and accept it as part of the job. They don't do anything they get paid to do that is popular with the citizens. They're either taking your guns, liqueur, cigarettes or cherry bombs.
I'm not much interested in rehashing the Weaver incident or the Koresh fiasco. But Swagger, please keep us posted on the latest of whats actually happening. Actually I guess I could just go on "High Road" and get the latest.
A raid does not mean anything is illegal, all it means is someone at the BATF has an itchy trigger finger.
I saw a picture of a prototype receivers where the 80% receiver was cast clear, it looks like the only way the receiver could have been made was to cast the receiver around the plug (legal), not cut the receiver then poor the plug (illegal).
I'll be waiting for actual charges to be filed and someone to be found guilty, which I would out money on not happening.
The BATF took customer info, so if someone purchased one of these and the BATF contacts you, remember this sound piece of advice, don't say anything.
Swagger, has your friend offered any opinion whatsoever regarding these raids! I understand that Ares purchased the polymer lowers from EP and that they were raided but are now back to business as usual.
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Originally Posted by swagger
I have one of their 80% polymer lowers - it was given to me by a friend of mine, who is also one of Ares' attorneys. As far as I know, he's not working on this case (he typically only deals with civil litigation), but I've asked him to keep me updated if he hears anything he's able to relay.
I was actually in San Diego over the weekend, doing some tech stuff for my friend. We were going to visit Ares on Sunday so I could check them out and give them some support over the issue they're having with the city and their sign, but the work I was doing ran long and I didn't have enough time.
If I hear anything interesting that isn't already widely known, I'll come back and post it.
Even if the receivers are molded around the white plug the ATF could rule that they are "readily convertible" to firearms so they must be regulated the same as a firearm. The white part does not seem to be chemically bonded to the rest of the receiver in a permanent way so the ATF could say it is the equivalent of a breakaway part of the mold.
Even if the receivers are molded around the white plug the ATF could rule that they are "readily convertible" to firearms so they must be regulated the same as a firearm. The white part does not seem to be chemically bonded to the rest of the receiver in a permanent way so the ATF could say it is the equivalent of a breakaway part of the mold.
I didn't see the spot in the US Constitution, where We The People, allow any government to "regulate arms"
Actually, I see specific wording, that is suppose to prevent any limitations. Shall not be infringed, does not mean maybe.
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