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Old 03-17-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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You must have missed the free cellphone truck.
Probably since #1 I make a 6 figure income, #2 they dont give out my favorite phone I imagine, and #3 I dont think that got Reagen a ton of votes (it was passed in his administration)
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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IMF is also the ones who insist on austerity when a nation spends to much they can't pay their bills like US ;if Op wants to go that route.Deep cuts to public spending is the key word.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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IMF is also the ones who insist on austerity when a nation spends to much they can't pay their bills like US ;if Op wants to go that route.Deep cuts to public spending is the key word.
The IMF has also admitted that that was a mistake, because they did not put enough weight on the multiplicative effects of spending.

As a result they were wrong about austerity being the solution, when rather better taxation, and stimulative spending would have been better.

Deep cuts to public spending to deal with taxation shortfalls during a recession are exactly the wrong thing to do, however the IMF advised that, got it, and now Greece is held up as a example of failure. Failure of such magnitude that even the IMF has admitted to being wrong.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Good lord. Cato? Really? Thats your thoughtful response? And reading it...they dance around, cherry pick some facts, (I especially love the "recent egypt" numbers, and adjusted gini numbers-aka solt gini. nice!). But notice something...they dont actually re-run the comparison using the adjusted solt gini numbers. Nor do they really bring up anything that contradicts the study, they just mumble some points...and run away.

One thing I do agree with them on, sudden massive changes can be disruptive and bad. Shrug, imagine that.
good lord cato=ad hominem fallacy. Again it is naïve to accept a paper on the first day it is released. If you don't like this critique, why not wait for the thousand or so that will follow before you render your judgement?
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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good lord cato=ad hominem fallacy. Again it is naïve to accept a paper on the first day it is released. If you don't like this critique, why not wait for the thousand or so that will follow before you render your judgement?
Cato is a political based hack site. Their history of distorting data makes it FAR from being a ad hominem fallacy. Even if I went after the author-Id go after things relevant to his believability, not a ad hominem.

Its naive to accept the paper written by what? a dozen Phd's? And you think there will be thousands of critiques? Heres a FAR more likely scenario-Cato's response will be used as the basis for the vast majority of critiques.

And the author? He is hardly a great economist. Read this:
No Housing Bubble Trouble | Cato Institute

Oh and look...also from Cato.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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And the author? He is hardly a great economist. Read this:
No Housing Bubble Trouble | Cato Institute

Oh and look...also from Cato.
This is the same thing Bernanke told us and yet you defend him.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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This is the same thing Bernanke told us and yet you defend him.
Really? Show me where I defend Bernanke. Ohhh wait, another excellent example of a ad hominem atttack! This time directly on me. Nice!
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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Really? Show me where I defend Bernanke. Ohhh wait, another excellent example of a ad hominem atttack! This time directly on me. Nice!
Sorry, I did get you confused with EBEGGS.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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I don't understand what is there to discuss, the GI Bill after WWII, one of the largest redistribution programs and covering over 6 million Americans, was an incredible success and resulted in leaps in productivity and growth of our GDP. Case closed. Spend on the youth, send them to schools and the economy will improve over time.




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Really? Show me where I defend Bernanke. Ohhh wait, another excellent example of a ad hominem atttack! This time directly on me. Nice!
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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I don't understand what is there to discuss, the GI Bill after WWII, one of the largest redistribution programs and covering over 6 million Americans, was an incredible success and resulted in leaps in productivity and GDP. Case closed. Spend on the youth, send them to schools and the economy will improve over time.
The G.I.'s kind of earned their schooling.
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