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Old 03-13-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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and also the Big Government of CA.
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Gerawan Farms employs more than 10,000 workers a year—more than double the entire membership of UFW—and points to county employment statistics to back up claims that it's an industry leader in employee compensation. UFW won an election to represent Gerawan Farms' workers in 1990. The company and the union had a single bargaining session, and then UFW disappeared from the scene, according to Dan Gerawan.

UFW refused to participate in the story and has not answered questions about why they disappeared for more than two decades. The truth is, they don't have to answer such questions. Despite its 24-year absence, UFW is still the representative union of the workers under California law. Two years ago, UFW initiated a process called "mandatory mediation and conciliation," which would force Gerawan Farms to impose a union contract and terminate any employees not willing to divert three percent of wages towards union dues. This did not sit well with the workers.

Forced to Unionize: Is this Cesar Chavez's Legacy? - Reason.com
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:43 PM
 
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and also the Big Government of CA.
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Gerawan Farms employs more than 10,000 workers a year—more than double the entire membership of UFW—and points to county employment statistics to back up claims that it's an industry leader in employee compensation. UFW won an election to represent Gerawan Farms' workers in 1990. The company and the union had a single bargaining session, and then UFW disappeared from the scene, according to Dan Gerawan.

UFW refused to participate in the story and has not answered questions about why they disappeared for more than two decades. The truth is, they don't have to answer such questions. Despite its 24-year absence, UFW is still the representative union of the workers under California law. Two years ago, UFW initiated a process called "mandatory mediation and conciliation," which would force Gerawan Farms to impose a union contract and terminate any employees not willing to divert three percent of wages towards union dues. This did not sit well with the workers.

Forced to Unionize: Is this Cesar Chavez's Legacy? - Reason.com
Yup, I'd wonder about the ALRB office. I'd be asking for some investigations, cause to me it sounds like someone got paid....
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Most people don't hate unions, don't confuse right wing circles for mainstream America.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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and also the Big Government of CA.
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Gerawan Farms employs more than 10,000 workers a year—more than double the entire membership of UFW—and points to county employment statistics to back up claims that it's an industry leader in employee compensation. UFW won an election to represent Gerawan Farms' workers in 1990. The company and the union had a single bargaining session, and then UFW disappeared from the scene, according to Dan Gerawan.

UFW refused to participate in the story and has not answered questions about why they disappeared for more than two decades. The truth is, they don't have to answer such questions. Despite its 24-year absence, UFW is still the representative union of the workers under California law. Two years ago, UFW initiated a process called "mandatory mediation and conciliation," which would force Gerawan Farms to impose a union contract and terminate any employees not willing to divert three percent of wages towards union dues. This did not sit well with the workers.

Forced to Unionize: Is this Cesar Chavez's Legacy? - Reason.com
You can believe the company's story, and it's paid shills, if you want. As the article admits, the UFW's side is NOT represented here.

As to "mandatory membership"... yeah, it's true. The only way a union can survive against the might of management is to have unanimous membership among the workers. How easy would it be for the company to manipulate the employees, playing divide and conquer?
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I bet nobody in a union works full time and falls below the poverty line.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Most people don't hate unions, don't confuse right wing circles for mainstream America.
Yes, they do. Because we have government supported unions. People would support unions if it were not for these Big Government abuses.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I bet nobody in a union works full time and falls below the poverty line.
I bet nobody outside the union has the support of government to abuse their power.

I bet nobody in the Mafia works full time and falls below the poverty line.

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Old 03-13-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Yes, they do. Because we have government supported unions. People would support unions if it were not for these Big Government abuses.
Proof that most people "hate unions"
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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I bet nobody outside the union has the support of government to abuse their power.

I be nobody in the Mafia works full time and falls below the poverty line.
Yes, but no one in the mafia brought about what unions did...like...

Weekends
All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
Paid Vacation
FMLA
Sick Leave
Social Security
Minimum Wage
Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
8-Hour Work Day
Overtime Pay
Child Labor Laws
Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
40 Hour Work Week
Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
Unemployment Insurance
Pensions
Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
Employer Health Care Insurance
Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
Wrongful Termination Laws
Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Whistleblower Protection Laws
Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
Sexual Harassment Laws
Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
Holiday Pay
Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
Privacy Rights
Pregnancy and Parental Leave
Military Leave
The Right to Strike
Public Education for Children
Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States

Yeah, people hate unions for bringing all that about...
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Most people don't hate unions, don't confuse right wing circles for mainstream America.
Most people in this country realize that labor unions are no longer needed or beneficial like they were decades ago, that's why their membership continues to fade across the country.
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