Obama, Democrats, Media/Hollywood owe American people and those they demonized an apology

[katygirl68]

Originally Posted by Hadoken

Yeah, this seems to be gibberish. As far as I can tell, Obama hasn't "demonized" anyone. And Hollywood is happy to make fun of any sort of teredo type. Also, to be Frank, "Obamacare" is exactly what Obama said he would write into law when he was running for president back in 2008, with the only notable exception being the individual mandate, which was instead Hillary's proposal. Health care access was one of the major issues of the 2008 presidential campaign, every important candidate had a proposal on it, they ran on it, and Obama won and ensured that his proposal became law. So no, there was no deception involved, and I see no need for any apology.

A more interesting discussion is: why do so many republicans pretend that "Obamacare" was some sort of surprise, when it mostly falls along the path that Obama loudly proposed when he was running for president? And why did they vehemently oppose it, when it's largely comprised of their own ideas? Isn't it they that owe the US an apology?

No deception involved? How about selling as something that won't affect people who already have insurance? "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period." One big fat deception if you ask me.

[ntwrkguy1]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Well since you brought that up, where is our apology for the Iraq War, shoved through Congress, costing us trillions borrowed from China, killed and wounded hundreds of thousands, and based on a lie. When we get that apology--long overdue, get back to us.

You're right -- but I'm still waiting for the responses to the emails that I sent EVERYONE that voted FOR war. To date, nobody has ever replied.

Oh....I only sent the emails to those that approved the military action.

58% of Democratic Senators voted for war, and none of them have answered me.
40% of Democratic Representatives voted for war, and none of them have answered me.

It's actually pretty depressing, sending an email to an elected official and not getting a response.

But I'm a persistent guy, and I still email our elected idiots when they vote for something I don't agree with.

Amazingly, I didn't have to email a single Republican, asking why they voted FOR Obamacare.

But not a single Democrat has responded to my email.

If I ever get that apology, I'll get back to you. I promise.

[LoveToRow]

Originally Posted by Hadoken

Obama, like every other significant candidate in 2008, made reforming health care a major part of his platform. Everyone had an idea on how to control out out-of-control health care costs. Obama won the election, and put his proposal into law.

The end.

Get over it. Stop pretending that is was some sort of secret, when it was repeatedly debated on national tv networks. Stop whining that it was "rammed through congress", when it was bound to happen in any event. And stop whining that Hollywood had anything to do with it, when it was driven by people who lost loved ones because their insurance companies gave them the finger, door women who were tossed into bankruptcy because their insurance companies said "Oh, you didn't tell us your husband had acne as a kid, we won't at for your breast cancer treatments, but we'll keep your payments". And for that matter, let's stop pretending that insurance company CEOs didn't testify to congress that they would continue doing such things, unless the law was changed.

No, it's not the end. As much as you and the Democrats who passed this disaster against the will of the American people WISH it were the end, it is not the end.

See, we still live in sort of a democratic republic, where the people's voice matters. Although you and Obama wish we lived in an autocracy ruled by Obama, we aren't there. Yet.