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Old 03-14-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Pelosi: Republicans “Are Wasting Their Time” Using Obamacare as an Electoral Issue (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

Translation: you are killing us with the so-called affordable care act, please stop.
Yup, she just wants to help Republicans get elected and is offering advise on how best to win.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Nick Rahall has been in Congress since 1976. He's in his first real race because of Obamacare.

WV MetroNews – More analysts moving Rahall-Jenkins to ‘toss-up’
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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These corporations also put out anti-Obamacare ads that basically steel money from young Americans.

These corporations pay for ads that tell young people they should (not) shop on the health insurance exchange (marketplace) because there are better options.

But these ads forget to mention that around 80% of young people's incomes qualify them for subsidized health insurance on the exchange. Only 3% of young people will get cheaper rates off the exchange.

These ads try to hide the above information from young Americans. Then these Americans spend (much) more money for insurance than they need too, then they get angry and upset (and some of these hood winked people will join the republican movement.)



Two Creepy Obamacare Ads - YouTube




These corporations also hoodwink Americans with other anti-Obamacare ads.

The Koch Brothers and ObamaCare: and Other Koch Brothers Facts

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Old 03-14-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Nancy Pelosi is so delusional that she likely believes what she says. She strikes me as so distanced from reality, so out-of-touch with the 99% have to go through, that she actually believes that Obamacare will be the single greatest achievement in the history of the world.

It's either that, or senility has caught up to her. At her age, it's safe to say there are mental issues setting in, but we'll have to pry that "dignified" paycheck of hers from her cold, dead hands before she does the right thing and just steps down.
Obamacare was created by the same economist that created "Romneycare."

Romneycare is the healthcare law Mitt Romney passed as governor of Massachusetts.

"a majority of employers, residents, and physicians in the state have all found the reform (Romneycare) to be beneficial."

"Romneycare lowered premiums in that market by about 50 percent relative to the national trend."

Romneycare In Massachusetts, Six Years Later - ABC News
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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Obamacare was created by the same economist that created "Romneycare."

Romneycare is the healthcare law Mitt Romney passed as governor of Massachusetts.

"a majority of employers, residents, and physicians in the state have all found the reform (Romneycare) to be beneficial."

"Romneycare lowered premiums in that market by about 50 percent relative to the national trend."

Romneycare In Massachusetts, Six Years Later - ABC News
Romneycare was voluntary, and cut costs, Obamacare does no such thing. In fact its added about $1T in new taxes. How the hell do you think their going to be paid for if they lower insurance rates?

Romneycare offers incentive to insure, Obama offers incentive to de-insure. Again, they arent the same..

But yeah, you got those talking points down good.. Shame their all lies...

btw, doesnt this mean we should have elected Romney? I mean if a President has to copy someone elses plans, then they really arent a leader, are they?
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Romneycare was voluntary, and cut costs, Obamacare does no such thing. In fact its added about $1T in new taxes. How the hell do you think their going to be paid for if they lower insurance rates?

Romneycare offers incentive to insure, Obama offers incentive to de-insure. Again, they arent the same..

But yeah, you got those talking points down good.. Shame their all lies...

btw, doesnt this mean we should have elected Romney? I mean if a President has to copy someone elses plans, then they really arent a leader, are they?
Romneycare is mandatory for individuals and businesses just like Obamacare (they were both created by the same economist.)

Obamacare vs Romneycare - Difference and Comparison | Diffen


And according to the CBO,

"Obamacare would reduce deficits by more than $100 billion in the first decade, and by considerably more in the second decade -- by half a percent of economic growth. A half percent of GDP over a decade could mean reducing deficits by more than $1 trillion."

Obamacare and deficits: Reality check - Oct. 28, 2013


These new studies say Obamacare will save the US government even more money than above..
New study says Obamacare will save the government a lot of*money
The Affordable Care Act


And laws regulating insurance companies have already saved American consumers $2.1 billion dollars as of Sept 2012.
Obamacare Has Saved Consumers $2.1 Billion | ThinkProgress
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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Obamacare was created by the same economist that created "Romneycare."

Romneycare is the healthcare law Mitt Romney passed as governor of Massachusetts.

"a majority of employers, residents, and physicians in the state have all found the reform (Romneycare) to be beneficial."

"Romneycare lowered premiums in that market by about 50 percent relative to the national trend."

Romneycare In Massachusetts, Six Years Later - ABC News
My wife's family is from MA, and there are lots of them.

To a person, ALL of them have reported that their health insurance is now costing them more. Yes, some of them did see a reduction in their premiums, but ALL of them saw increases to their deductibles and OOP expenses, as welll as seeing an increase in what they pay for prescription medication.

You're falling for a shell game, one that is practiced by anyone attempting to separate you from your money.

Let's say you really want to lease a new BMW M3. The dealer offers you a lease for $950 a month for 36 months with $0 down. You tell them that's too high, so the dealer is nice enough to lower your payments to $850 a month for 36 months. You're excited --- finally, you're going to get that M3. At signing, the dealer tells you that there is a down payment on the $850 plan of $7200.

Did your premiums go down? Yes, yes they did.

Did your expenses go up? Yes, yes they did.

Welcome to Obamacare........but hey, enjoy the M3.
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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My wife's family is from MA, and there are lots of them.

To a person, ALL of them have reported that their health insurance is now costing them more. Yes, some of them did see a reduction in their premiums, but ALL of them saw increases to their deductibles and OOP expenses, as welll as seeing an increase in what they pay for prescription medication.

You're falling for a shell game, one that is practiced by anyone attempting to separate you from your money.

Let's say you really want to lease a new BMW M3. The dealer offers you a lease for $950 a month for 36 months with $0 down. You tell them that's too high, so the dealer is nice enough to lower your payments to $850 a month for 36 months. You're excited --- finally, you're going to get that M3. At signing, the dealer tells you that there is a down payment on the $850 plan of $7200.

Did your premiums go down? Yes, yes they did.

Did your expenses go up? Yes, yes they did.

Welcome to Obamacare........but hey, enjoy the M3.
62% of the people in MA like Romneycare.
Poll Shows Most Massachusetts Residents Like ‘Romneycare’ | Here & Now

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Old 03-14-2014, 09:41 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1 View Post
My wife's family is from MA, and there are lots of them.

To a person, ALL of them have reported that their health insurance is now costing them more. Yes, some of them did see a reduction in their premiums, but ALL of them saw increases to their deductibles and OOP expenses, as welll as seeing an increase in what they pay for prescription medication.

You're falling for a shell game, one that is practiced by anyone attempting to separate you from your money.

Let's say you really want to lease a new BMW M3. The dealer offers you a lease for $950 a month for 36 months with $0 down. You tell them that's too high, so the dealer is nice enough to lower your payments to $850 a month for 36 months. You're excited --- finally, you're going to get that M3. At signing, the dealer tells you that there is a down payment on the $850 plan of $7200.

Did your premiums go down? Yes, yes they did.

Did your expenses go up? Yes, yes they did.

Welcome to Obamacare........but hey, enjoy the M3.
Obamacare will (slightly) effect certain peoples lives in a negative way, but its the best thing for Americas future.

Obamacare will save the federal government $190 billion over 10 years, and decrease our deficits by almost $300 billion.

New study says Obamacare will save the government a lot of*money
The Affordable Care Act


Obamacare will also save 45,000 Americans from dying each year from not having insurance.
New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette


And since Obamacare will give everyone health insurance and preventive medical care, it will save America (HUGE) amounts of money in the distant future (there will be less sick people.)

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Old 03-14-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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chad3 is totally sold. He must be one of the people the rest of us are paying for. Look at him grubbing for our money. There are lots of factual posts and you still refuse to listen.
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