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Old 03-14-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
It's just about impossible for him to continue to say - "You can keep your Doctor ... PERIOD", when so many are coming forward with stories about how they can't keep their Doctor - or even get a Doctor.

You will notice that he accepts no Blame for this - the Big O always find somebody else to blame for his lies and mistakes.
Why can't you get a doctor?
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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what did you expect from a low life lying socialist that hates America!
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why didn't the GOP make an issue out of this during the campaign? Why wasn't this a part of the debate?
You didn't take government class in high school?

Maybe you did, but you had a union teacher.

I'll tell you the things your union teacher was too incompetent to tell you.

Congress only enacts a basic framework for law. The ACA is merely 900+ pages of gibberish.

It is the Bureaucracy, that reads the skeletal framework of the law, interprets it as they see fit, write rules, policies and regulations based on their interpretations, and then enforces the rules, polices and regulations that they --- the Bureaucracy -- created.

Why do you think Pelosi kept saying, "You have to pass it to see what's in it?"

She was referring to the fact that you won't know what's in it, until the Bureaucrats write all the regulations.

Do you understand that every piece of legislation introduced is written by a union, think-tank, special interest group, corporation or political action committee?

Seriously, I would wager that Ron Paul is the only Congressperson that has actually written legislation in the last 20 years....all of it comes from 3rd Parties and is handed off to someone in Congress to introduce.

This has been discussed ad naseum.

I repeatedly asked ACA supporters to state how much 1 employee will cost on January 1, 2014 and not even one frickin' ACA supporter could give an answer.

It is a fact that uncertainty stemming from the ACA impeded and hampered hiring since 2009.

This thing about not being able to keep your insurance, and not keeping your doctor is the result of recent regulations that were written and have been interpreted...finally.

Was this intentional?

I'm absolutely certain it was.

Just like now, Obama is in a total panic and attempting to delay key parts of the ACA to prevent a recession.

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Blame Mitt Romney. Obamacare is a copy of "Romneycare."
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
There are differences in percentages, but they are the same basic thing.

Obamacare vs Romneycare - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
Are you serious?

You have proven that you can hunt down propaganda web-sites.

Is that your Blog?

This.....

Ponzi Scheme vs Social Security - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

....is all wrong. The moron who wrote it lied numerous times.

There's nothing authoritative or trust-worthy on that site.

If you want to prove your claim, instead of relying on propaganda web-sites, give us a line-by-line comparison, so that we can see for ourselves, instead of taking the word of those with obvious agendas.

Bureaucratically....

Mircea
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Somebody call their local Oldies station and ask them to go back to 1965 for a 'moldy oldie' by a band from Minneapolis called the Castaways who had a hit entitled 'Liar, Liar'.

Then we can all sing along...'Liar, Liar, pants on fire, your nose is longer than a telephone wire...', which would certainly describe his disastrous Presidency given his penchant for lying, as well as everybody else in his administration.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:34 PM
 
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what did you expect from a low life lying socialist that hates America!
Have you lost your doctor?
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:30 AM
 
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There are differences in percentages, but they are the same thing.

Obamacare vs Romneycare - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare
Romneycare Vs. Obamacare: Key Similarities & Differences « CBS Boston

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

There are some differences including that the Massachusetts constituents wanted Romneycare...unlike the US constituents and Obamacare....which is probably why Romney didn't need to lie about how his mother died like Obama did to promote it.

So if Republicans should support Obamacare, simply because Romney helped support a similar law in Massachusetts - then Democrats should support privatization of social security, because Clinton supported that?
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:33 AM
 
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He said it and owns it.

My point was and remains, there was no, zip, nada upside to intentionally lying.
Dont be silly, of course there was..

Do you think if Obama said you'd lose your doctors, premiums will go up, deductibles will skyrocket, lose your policies etc, i.e. the TRUTH, people would have supported it?
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:38 AM
 
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Dont be silly, of course there was..

Do you think if Obama said you'd lose your doctors, premiums will go up, deductibles will skyrocket, lose your policies etc, i.e. the TRUTH, people would have supported it?

Bingo! And he would have likely lost reelection and his party may have lost the Senate had he been honest.

We are talking about Obama, someone that literally lied about the circumstances of his own mother's death to promote this law and then repeated the lie AFTER the Washington Post caught him in the lie.

Obama knows he can blatantly lie constantly and even after he is caught he can still lie about the lie, because too many of his fans are like this poster...gullible and loyal to him to a fault where they will excuse away lies.

‘The Road We’ve Traveled:’ A misleading account of Obama’s mother and her insurance dispute - The Washington Post
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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Why can't you get a doctor?
Post FAIL.

Try to keep up. The issue is Obama said you CAN keep YOUR doctor. NOT, can you GET a doctor.

If you don't know the difference, maybe you shouldn't be posting.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
You didn't take government class in high school?

Maybe you did, but you had a union teacher.

I'll tell you the things your union teacher was too incompetent to tell you.

Congress only enacts a basic framework for law. The ACA is merely 900+ pages of gibberish.

It is the Bureaucracy, that reads the skeletal framework of the law, interprets it as they see fit, write rules, policies and regulations based on their interpretations, and then enforces the rules, polices and regulations that they --- the Bureaucracy -- created.

Why do you think Pelosi kept saying, "You have to pass it to see what's in it?"

She was referring to the fact that you won't know what's in it, until the Bureaucrats write all the regulations.

Do you understand that every piece of legislation introduced is written by a union, think-tank, special interest group, corporation or political action committee?

Seriously, I would wager that Ron Paul is the only Congressperson that has actually written legislation in the last 20 years....all of it comes from 3rd Parties and is handed off to someone in Congress to introduce.

This has been discussed ad naseum.

I repeatedly asked ACA supporters to state how much 1 employee will cost on January 1, 2014 and not even one frickin' ACA supporter could give an answer.

It is a fact that uncertainty stemming from the ACA impeded and hampered hiring since 2009.

This thing about not being able to keep your insurance, and not keeping your doctor is the result of recent regulations that were written and have been interpreted...finally.

Was this intentional?

I'm absolutely certain it was.

Just like now, Obama is in a total panic and attempting to delay key parts of the ACA to prevent a recession.





Are you serious?

You have proven that you can hunt down propaganda web-sites.

Is that your Blog?

This.....

Ponzi Scheme vs Social Security - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

....is all wrong. The moron who wrote it lied numerous times.

There's nothing authoritative or trust-worthy on that site.

If you want to prove your claim, instead of relying on propaganda web-sites, give us a line-by-line comparison, so that we can see for ourselves, instead of taking the word of those with obvious agendas.

Bureaucratically....

Mircea
"Congress only enacts a basic framework for law. The ACA is merely 900+ pages of gibberish. "

TO sum up, you are saying Obama did NOT know the details of the bill he signed yet went all around the Country making staement that he did NOT know were lies.

And considering the dems in Congress wrote the bill, not ONE of them attempted to correct him and just let him go on and on telling the same lies.
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