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Having a government is moral. Perhaps you just don't like how being moral means that you have obligations to something other than yourself. Your corrupted perspective seems to be such that you cannot bring yourself to admit what is moral versus what is simply your personal preference.
Except that the form of government liberal progs prefer is one where the government is a supreme dictator, and the politicians and bureaucrats are given the authority to impose their will and handout their own personal dictates, and mandates. A kindler, gentler version of Communist China, the iron fist with a "We Care" logo splashed on it.
A hundred years later, Ford is effectively irrelevant. The matters we discuss today are relevant in today's context, even without the support a living wage provides to the health of the economy. Ensuring everyone has access to jobs that allow them to pay their own way and secure their own future is a moral way of treating workers. Period. We shouldn't let the egoistic avarice of right-wingers make it seem like what they want is defensible on any level. It's wrong. Morally wrong. They want to excuse abuse of financial power, plain-and-simple. They craft all manner of childish rationalizations to try to sidestep the immorality of what they project. They engage in inane and vacuous disparagement of those most vulnerable in society, in a pitiful attempt to defend their offensive attitudes and conduct. Those are the only characterizations of their perspectives necessary to set those self-centered, antisocial perspectives aside.
How many times are you going to use the phrase "egoistic avarice ". It is not impressive and makes you look desperate.
It was very forward thinking of HF to do this. Now with corporations only concerned with the next profit and earnings report they would slit their own throat if it make a quarter look good, and that is exactly what they are doing with sending jobs over seas and cutting wages. This is a down ward spiral and it leads to more lay offs, less productivity and a bad economy for all. Good luck getting a wrinkled up old fart tea bagger to see that.
Except that the form of government liberal progs prefer is one where the government is a supreme dictator, and the politicians and bureaucrats are given the authority to impose their will and handout their own personal dictates, and mandates. A kindler, gentler version of Communist China, the iron fist with a "We Care" logo splashed on it.
Liberals would surely salute that flag and try and force everyone to pledge to it.
what was and what is are too different things. !00 years ago America was a very different country and he did what he did because he wanted to, not because the government mandated it or the unions demanded it. there is no way anyone can justify something today, based on 100 or 200 years ago. I say this to the OP, if that is what he is getting at: If Henry did it, so should all businesses do it now.
It was exactly a century ago when Henry Ford decided to pay its autoworkers $5 daily wage ($120 in 2014 dollars) to decrease turn around and lower the cost of training, but also to turn his workers into consumers, being able to afford the cars they were making, this way increasing his sales. Brilliant business strategy of that quintessential American industrialist, wasn't it?
It was a good business decision. Nothing more, nothing less. And it happens all the time.
You took the cowardly approach and didn't address anything I said about how immoral government is.
Actually, I took the honest and direct approach and called out your nonsense for what it is. You evidently have no legitimate rebuttal, so you tried to make it seem like you had something worthwhile to say.
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...your repugnant attempt to justify theft of my money...
Repeating your lie doesn't make it any less of a lie.
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our own tyranny
A self-deception of epic proportion. Did you even read what you wrote and think about this phrase logically and rationally? The only tyranny in this country is the exploitation of financial power by the wealthy to attract sycophants to support their efforts to double economic injustice in the last generation, and to attempt to double economic injustice in the next generation. You've bought into their claptrap hook, line and sinker, it appears.
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I'll be expecting another long winded say nothing post of yours that doesn't address anything of substance but instead deflects and denies.
What you got is another accurate slap-down for the corrupted perspectives you're vainly trying to defend.
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Except that the form of government liberal progs prefer is one where the government is a supreme dictator, and the politicians and bureaucrats are given the authority to impose their will and handout their own personal dictates, and mandates.
Deliberately ignoring that government is led by leaders elected by the people just makes your comment seem ignorant and foolish. "Their own personal dictates, and mandates" are reflections of what the people want, even if you cannot bring yourself to admit that more than half the people in this country want things that you viscerally hate.
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How many times are you going to use the phrase "egoistic avarice ".
Every time you try to defend it.
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It is not impressive and makes you look desperate.
It isn't supposed to be impressive, but rather it is supposed to be precisely what it is: cuttingly accurate. What's desperate is a bunch of right-wing apolgists defending self-centeredness with such pointless vacuous evasions of plain-old-golden-rule-morality.
Deliberately ignoring that government is led by leaders elected by the people just makes your comment seem ignorant and foolish. "Their own personal dictates, and mandates" are reflections of what the people want, even if you cannot bring yourself to admit that more than half the people in this country want things that you viscerally hate..
Actually, I took the honest and direct approach and called out your nonsense for what it is. You evidently have no legitimate rebuttal, so you tried to make it seem like you had something worthwhile to say.
No you haven't you tried to equate government as being moral and you were put in your place with the examples I gave.
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Repeating your lie doesn't make it any less of a lie.
The only lie is your idiotic asumption that government is moral.
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A self-deception of epic proportion. Did you even read what you wrote and think about this phrase logically and rationally? The only tyranny in this country is the exploitation of financial power by the wealthy to attract sycophants to support their efforts to double economic injustice in the last generation, and to attempt to double economic injustice in the next generation. You've bought into their claptrap hook, line and sinker, it appears.
The only tyranny? LMAO Why even bother to post when you don't research. Government is the cause of our economic collapse. Government is the one who hand picks the winners and losers. Why post if you're uninformed.
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What you got is another accurate slap-down for the corrupted perspectives you're vainly trying to defend.
Again nothing of substance and no facts you just blathered on.
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