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Old 03-24-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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ok, I'm going to play devels advocate here....and again, please know I believe what your saying,
but what about all the false accusations that people do claim good cops commit?

I mean think about how it could very easily ruin a cops reputation and life?
We already have laws against filing false complaints. We already have laws against perjury. Complaints are investigated. As the article I linked to earlier, Wichita has received a hundred complaints alleging racial profiling. The Wichita police department investigated themselves, and found themselves innocent. And the police department can be vindictive. I've actually had a police officer once who was being vindictive towards me, and I had to reach out to a judge, who reached out to the police chief, who directed the police officer to back off.

All complaints deserve to be investigated. This law isn't changing that. But by declaring that a complaint can't be reinvestigated by a third party, and by making all complaints where an officer is cleared to be prosecutable, this is about stopping people from complaining at all. It's simply not right. Because police officers don't always conduct themselves to the high standards their profession demands, and some police departments are actually corrupt.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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We already have laws against filing false complaints. We already have laws against perjury. Complaints are investigated. As the article I linked to earlier, Wichita has received a hundred complaints alleging racial profiling. The Wichita police department investigated themselves, and found themselves innocent. And the police department can be vindictive. I've actually had a police officer once who was being vindictive towards me, and I had to reach out to a judge, who reached out to the police chief, who directed the police officer to back off.

All complaints deserve to be investigated. This law isn't changing that. But by declaring that a complaint can't be reinvestigated by a third party, and by making all complaints where an officer is cleared to be prosecutable, this is about stopping people from complaining at all. It's simply not right. Because police officers don't always conduct themselves to the high standards their profession demands, and some police departments are actually corrupt.

ahhh, ok, I do understand the fears of this, yes, it makes sense....your right.

Thank you
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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If this is a reflection of how traffic court works where the judge goes with the cops testimony as a default we are now in a true police state on top of federal rogue agencies persecuting political opponents..

If this is real legislation it should not pass because real victims of the police are limited to a qualified defense by their pocket books and if they loose the get a felony charge.

When a law highlights a class of people to provide harsher penalties for crimes against them, it diminishes the value of everyone else. Killing, false testimony or beating another human being is already covered by law, last thing we need is a slippery slope that gives special consideration to government designated groups. Only our legislators can lie and misrepresnt without consequence.

Remember when senator obama's handlers announced during the 2008 campaign, they would sue anyone who told a lie about obama. fortunately when that hit the airwaves those scummers faded quickly. Can you imagine how much of your lifesaving it would take to argue if someone lied vs a handfull of other legal terms rthat equate to a lie to 99% of the people. Special laws like this hang like a wet blanket to smother dissent.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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A false complaint could potentially cost an innocent officer a promotion or even a job, effectively robbing him of thousands of dollars over a period of years.
Every person in this country is subject to that. The police are not above the law or other citizens and should get no special treatment under the law.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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As far as I know you have to sign a formal complain as if you were under oath. To sign a deliberately false complaint is committing perjury. That is already a felony. Why does society need redundant law? Did somebody file an real complaint against some Chief of Police's Brother in law and need punishment for the audacity?
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Anything that passes in Kansas is a Republican bill. That is the way it is. All eyes on cupcake land.
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