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Old 03-22-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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In 2014, Latinos will surpass whites as largest racial/ethnic group in California

In 2014, Latinos will surpass whites as largest racial/ethnic group in California | Pew Research Center


Do you see Texas in there (title) somewhere?
Yes, I do. Screw the title; I read the article. Texas: Latino - 38.2% California - 39.0%

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Not ignorance .. just ask La Raza.
Excuse me? Speak English, please.

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(I do thank you for saying .. some of my post was worth noting!)
Sure you do.
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Normally I'd agree, but California is a different animal. Last year home values rose 18% in California, and they're projected to rise 6.5% this year according to Zillow. 18% is rare, but 6-7% isn't. This despite the fact that California was hit extra hard by the housing crash and recession. The lure of this region is strong, and home values reflect that. California doesn't have an artificially tight market like New England either--it's far and away the most populous state.
You were just babbling on and on about how blue states help the poor, now you've flip flopped into housing prices skyrocketing in those states.. Wouldnt that be harmful to the poor who cant afford housing?
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Most people in the country would pick California over Texas if the cost of living were comparable. Weather, beauty, and location.
I can (and did) afford to live there at one time.
Ran away from the illegal #ell #hole sanctuary.

Taxes are in part Very High due to the costs of providing services to the Illegals living there.
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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You were just babbling on and on about how blue states help the poor, now you've flip flopped into housing prices skyrocketing in those states.. Wouldnt that be harmful to the poor who cant afford housing?
To answer your question, no. It's not fair to the poor that people who are well off get to live in nice mansions while the poor have to live in regular homes. It's housing inequality. Obama needs raise property taxes on housing to help supplement the housing cost for the poor. The poor and homeless deserve to live in mansions too.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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yep drought, then fires, then massive rain with mudslides and earthquakes...everything to aspire for
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yeah, if only everything was equal.. Liberal utopia..

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...and if they can lower the taxes and get enough water.
We have a lot of excuses in here.

Like I said, most people would choose California over Texas and everyone knows it. Texas is big, flat (in the populated areas), ugly, and has disgusting weather.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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wow you have all the answers

challenge: define 'conservative' or 'red' state


let's see 'red" state..nc...a DEMOCRAT STRONG HOLD for the last 100 years

let's see.. 'blue' state NY...the only thing blue in the state is NYC

the 'red'("republican") states also have the biggest share of military posts in the county

the 'red' states as you call them are not 'red' at the state and local level

the "red" state also have most of the farming. most of the military posts, and a good portion of the national parks

btw...many of the "red" states (based on POTUS election) are very BLUE in their own states...NC for example has been a democrat controlled state for 100 years..even though it was a 'red' state in 2000/4
New York is not a red State. Just Stop It. Not even close!

I don't live in New York City and there is nothing red about where I live. Buffalo and Rochester aren't quite as liberal as the city, but they certainly favor blue. The county I live in (Erie) always goes blue.

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the top 15 states in the Nation that consume the MOST in welfare. 13-of-15 are DEMOCRAT states; they went Blue in 2008.

The BIGGEST US WELFARE STATES

–Year Researched Data———2009————-2007————2008———-2009

State——-% of Pop on Welfare—–Spending on Welfare—-Total on Welfare—–Unemp

#1. California……………3.30%………………$3.28 BILLION………..1,212,893…….11.5%

#2. Maine………………..2.37%……………….$61.73 MILLION………..31,148……….8.3%

#3. Tennessee………….2.15%……………..$91.28 MILLION……….133,505……….10.7%

#4. Massachusetts…….2.09%…………….$295.29 MILLION………136,033………8.2%

#5. Vermont…………….2.02%……………..$30.92 MILLION………..12,543……..7.3%

#6. Wash DC…………..1.99%……………….$18.67 MILLION………..11,806………..10.7%

#7. New York…………..1.92%………………$1.47 BILLION…………..373,305………8.2%

#8. Minnesota…………..1.88%………………$106.29 MILLION………98,028…….8.2%

#9. Washington…………1.86%………………$265.88 MILLION……121,864……..9.4%

#10. New Mexico……….1.83%………………$58.87 MILLION…….36,322…………..6.5%

#11. Indiana……………..1.83%………………..$102.27 MILLION…..116,430……….10.6%

#12. Rhode Island……..1.79%……………….$57.4 MILLION…………..18,839…………..12.1%

#13. Michigan…………..1.60%………………..$380.93 MILLION……….164,589………14.1%

#14.Pennsylvania……….1.60%………………$247.29 MILLION………198,666…………8.2%

#15. Oregon…………….1.55%………………….$83.85 MILLION……….58,831………….12.4%




No matter what you think, the fact that 13 of the 15 states mentioned above who TAKE the most money for WELFARE are BLUE states!!!!


some of the biggest welfare states....new york and california and mississippi...all very much liberal states....and missi also has the highest black population in the country

new york SPENDS more per capita on WELFARE than almost anyother state, 'blue' states like NY have more welfare recipients than 10 of those 'red' states combined..they are number 8

top 7 states per capita of welfare

1. DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA (wash DC)
2. GUAM
3. Rhode Island
4. Tenn
5. california
6. Maine
7. alaska
8. new york




highest dropout rates....nevada and illinois...very blue

texas also PRODUCES 40% of the ENERGY that California USES...yet

cali is the second biggest carbon emiter.....behind...texas

btw I am a new yorker (a northerner)

the problem is the democrats and their love for welfare and other social programs...the more they push these programs the more the wealthier states will pay for the poorer states. the more they push the "tax the rich" mantra, the more the rich will be paying for the poor.......NJ has more people that are considered wealthy, than it has people below the poverty line...a state like SC has more workingclass and poor than it has wealthy.....its simple math....and there is a simple solution,,, vote out the tax and spend liberals
Your strawman has no relevance in this thread.

However, you could at least try to be accurate. The "welfare states" do more to help the poor than the red states. The red states receive more Federal funding on average, yet fall short in everything. Perhaps they should spend it on the people and not tidying up their state budgets so they can cut taxes for the rich while their poor continue to suffer?

Anyway, so much for "welfare" states. Most blue states are givers or revenue neutral. Most red states are receivers:

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Old 03-23-2014, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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I love how the RWNJs will go to any lengths to deny California is doing much better, even denying the actual data to do so, mostly because they are just blinded by hatred (not to mention stupidity). Yes, I know it is frightening to find that your world view doesn't in fact conform to reality but the rest of us have long ago figured out you're out of touch with reality so the sooner you come to terms with that fact the better off you will be.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Did some moron really just claim Mississippi is a liberal state? :wtf: :lol:
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Bellevue & Seal Beach
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How many of those 58,000 jobs (if you trust California to tell the truth) are government employee jobs?
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The LAT reports California gained a net 58,000 jobs in Feb, one out of every three jobs created in the entire country:

LA Times

Buh... Whut? I thought California was BAD for business? I thought everybody left? I thought it went bankrupt? I thought it was about to fall into the ocean? What about all those "rules" and "regulations"???

Don't believe everything you read in Forbes, people.
No, it's bad for middle class families with kids.
Those are the transplants moving to states all over America....families with kids making middle class incomes.
They can't afford to live in CA and raise their kids anymore.
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