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Old 03-22-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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I like most people have survived and prospered under Obama. If your not surviving, that's your problem.

Whats that sound I hear? Oh! Its the deficit shrinking .
Wait! What else do I hear? Americans investing in America again. That's right boom baby boom.
Is that a factory I see being built here? In sourcing.
Oh look! People are buying houses they can actually afford. Not overpriced crap.

Obama needs to address student loans and the too high corporate tax rate. Get the loopholes closed and drop that tax rate. If he does that, then we have a smooth ride ahead.
And the people who set out to destroy him from the day he was elected. Somehow that doesn't jibe with the fact that he got elected to a second term. It takes a brave man to fight that battle.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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And Obama endorsed Bush's positions.

Obama escalated the Afghanistan War.

Obama followed Bush's withdrawal timeline from Iraq and actually left more troops there than Bush had planned.

Obama has increased foreign drone bases, more use of drones over more countries, and as a result more innocent civilians have been collateral damage.

The US still tortures, we just do it in a more acceptable way.

Obama has bombed more countries than Bush.

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet

If Bush's foreign policy is hurting America, so is Obama's.
Were you for the wars?

Yes. You absolutely were. Hell, you still are even under Obama.

So um...you know...
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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Were you for the wars?

Yes. You absolutely were. Hell, you still are even under Obama.

So um...you know...
You've lost - so you resort to lying. I don't change my position based on who is hot and cool - that is what Obamabots do.

Obama sheep are hypocrites...upset about Bush's foreign policy and then sit quietly approving of Obama's Bush on steroids policies.

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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I like most people have survived and prospered under Obama. If your not surviving, that's your problem.

Whats that sound I hear? Oh! Its the deficit shrinking .
Wait! What else do I hear? Americans investing in America again. That's right boom baby boom.
Is that a factory I see being built here? In sourcing.
Oh look! People are buying houses they can actually afford. Not overpriced crap.

Obama needs to address student loans and the too high corporate tax rate. Get the loopholes closed and drop that tax rate. If he does that, then we have a smooth ride ahead.
I agree 100%
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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I like most people have survived and prospered under Obama. If your not surviving, that's your problem.

Whats that sound I hear? Oh! Its the deficit shrinking .
Wait! What else do I hear? Americans investing in America again. That's right boom baby boom.
Is that a factory I see being built here? In sourcing.
Oh look! People are buying houses they can actually afford. Not overpriced crap.

Obama needs to address student loans and the too high corporate tax rate. Get the loopholes closed and drop that tax rate. If he does that, then we have a smooth ride ahead.
Very true. Some people just want to blame the government for everything rather than take any personal responsibility for their situation. By their logic, we should all blame George Bush for the fact that our property lost so much value under his regime.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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Obama has endorsed virtually every position that he and his supporters loathed about Bush. Yet, the outcry on the left is negligible and may as well not exist at all. This sheep mentality is what is hurting the country.
This is true as well...
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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Very true. Some people just want to blame the government for everything rather than take any personal responsibility for their situation. By their logic, we should all blame George Bush for the fact that our property lost so much value under his regime.
How many times do you idiots need to be told. It was Obama who sued Citibank forcing the banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them. Housing prices skyrocketed, people were forced to pay higher and higher prices, the banks kept giving sub-prime loans and it all came falling down.

As always the problem starts when government gets their fingers in there, changing the rules to accommodate the poor who don't have any sense of financial responsibility.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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You've lost - so you resort to lying. I don't change my position based on who is hot and cool - that is what Obamabots do.

Obama sheep are hypocrites...upset about Bush's foreign policy and then sit quietly approving of Obama's Bush on steroids policies.

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet
Lost what?

I wasn't for the wars then, and I'm not now.

You were then, and you are now...you're just pretending that you aren't.

I've given no endorsement of the Obama wars.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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Oh, god such crap! It's pretty much the same paranoia leftists had over W: 'This country is never going to survive another four years of W!'

It's 2014 and Obama will only be president for about 2.5 years. If our country has survived him this long, it's seems highly likely we'll survive that long.

Such a drama queen...
In the leftists defense, the economy was reeling towards the end of the Bush Administration. They had a reason to complain.

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The deficit is shrinking primarily due to record QE money creation under Obama, which artificially holds down the interest rates and therefore reduces the interest payments on massive national debt.

If we had recent historical average interest rates, our annual deficit would be 1 Trillion dollars still.

QE money creation is in fact trickle down economics.

How Quantitative Easing Helps the Rich and Soaks the Rest of Us - Reason.com


Obama has endorsed virtually every position that he and his supporters loathed about Bush. Yet, the outcry on the left is negligible and may as well not exist at all. This sheep mentality is what is hurting the country.
Are those excuses I hear?

The deficit is shrinking due to a combination of spending cuts, minor tax reform, and expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

Interest rates are artificial. They are set by the Fed and manipulated by the Fed.

"If" arguments are irrelevant. They aren't arguments at all so save them.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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How many times do you idiots need to be told. It was Obama who sued Citibank forcing the banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them.
It appears the depth of your knowledge doesn't quite match the the strength of your convictions on this subject.
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