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Old 03-24-2014, 11:15 PM
 
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Americans are brainwashed into thinking that the rich and businesses are job creators. Somehow businesses purpose is to create jobs. Then ordinary people's jobs are to accept the jobs businesses are obligated to create. Now that businesses aren't creating as many jobs and offshore these jobs, The bitterness of the population starts. Where is my job. You creat jobs right. Where is it!

People never realize that the purpose of business is not simply creating jobs. Jobs are a result of business demand. Jobs are a byproduct of business. But nope. That's not how the average person in today's America thinks. They think As if businesses are just there to provide them jobs. No understanding of how business works. Everything from their own perspective. Everything revolves around what they want.

One has to be totally complacent to spoiling to reach this level of self unawareness. it is the responsibility of workers to look for jobs and prepare themselves for jobs.

Most new businesses fail. At least they tried. I wonder what the average person has done in addition to ridiculing businesses for not doing a favor?

The lie about job creators, with its expectations, must stop.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Americans are brainwashed into thinking that the rich and businesses are job creators. Somehow businesses purpose is to create jobs. Then ordinary people's jobs are to accept the jobs businesses are obligated to create. Now that businesses aren't creating as many jobs and offshore these jobs, The bitterness of the population starts. Where is my job. You creat jobs right. Where is it!

People never realize that the purpose of business is not simply creating jobs. Jobs are a result of business demand. Jobs are a byproduct of business. But nope. That's not how the average person in today's America thinks. They think As if businesses are just there to provide them jobs. No understanding of how business works. Everything from their own perspective. Everything revolves around what they want.

One has to be totally complacent to spoiling to reach this level of self unawareness. it is the responsibility of workers to look for jobs and prepare themselves for jobs.

Most new businesses fail. At least they tried. I wonder what the average person has done in addition to ridiculing businesses for not doing a favor?

The lie about job creators, with its expectations, must stop.
Until the underlined a very good post.

But there was no favor by either employer or employee...ever.

Businessmen take the risk to make far more than they ever could as employees. Employees take the job because they view trading their services for money a good deal.

There is no more of a favor there than a hotel taking your money for a room.

Now your mistake on that line does not change the fact you are right: the purpose of a business is NOT to create jobs, nor should it be.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ok so here it goes. Businesses DO owe you a job. Why? Because they took your job from you in the first place. Ill explain. In an economy everyone works to support themselves, and they exchange their services with one another. The farmer grows food for the carpenter, who makes furniture for the plumber....etc. However.....corporations have come into the picture and grossly skewed that system. They replace individual tradesmen with an hourly workforce which serves to funnel profit to the top. These corporations have many tools in their belt to beat out the competition. It is nearly impossible to compete against most of these companies. Therefore yes, they do owe you a job....because they took your job from you in the first place.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:41 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Businesses DO owe you a job.
Why? Because they took your job from you in the first place.
Nonsense.

If anyone owes anyone else a job it's the parents who brought the child into the world.
The parents who understand this have always done a pretty good yob of it.
With rather few exceptions... THEIR children will have the skills/knowledge needed.

The rest is about the competition for jobs:
WHICH job and at what wage rate YOU will be able to get.
Doing well in this competition reality is also mostly the responsibility of the parents.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Nonsense.

If anyone owes anyone else a job it's the parents who brought the child into the world.
The parents who understand this have always done a pretty good yob of it.
With rather few exceptions... THEIR children will have the skills/knowledge needed.

The rest is about the competition for jobs:
WHICH job and at what wage rate YOU will be able to get.
Doing well in this competition reality is also mostly the responsibility of the parents.
It is not nonsense, it is economics. The ability for you to compete was eliminated by the government when they created the corporation. You cannot open a shop and compete with Walmart. You cannot open a sporting goods store and compete with Dicks or the Academy. You cannot open a supermarket and compete with Publix, Kroger, etc. You can only work for them. So in an economy they DO owe you a job, because they took away your ability to work independently.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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Then the Op should not look to them to give one. He/she can create his/her own or get a government position; simple.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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The vast majority of businesses are created to make a return on investment. A byproduct of business is employment.

However, lower investment and less business equals lower employment.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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It is not nonsense, it is economics. The ability for you to compete was eliminated by the government when they created the corporation. You cannot open a shop and compete with Walmart. You cannot open a sporting goods store and compete with Dicks or the Academy. You cannot open a supermarket and compete with Publix, Kroger, etc. You can only work for them. So in an economy they DO owe you a job, because they took away your ability to work independently.
No One took away your jobs. you can run your own small business. plenty of people do that. Many corporations were once small businesses. This whole owe mentality is very entitled.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: OKC
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It is not nonsense, it is economics. The ability for you to compete was eliminated by the government when they created the corporation. You cannot open a shop and compete with Walmart. You cannot open a sporting goods store and compete with Dicks or the Academy. You cannot open a supermarket and compete with Publix, Kroger, etc. You can only work for them. So in an economy they DO owe you a job, because they took away your ability to work independently.
You can create your own corporation. Independent grocery stores are actually on the rise. For example, Detroit has no chain grocery stores, at least as of a few years ago.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: plano
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A successful business makes enough cash flow to pay its employees and payback it's owners a return on their investment. If they have a little more cash left they can invest and hire to grow the business. The gov can encourage them to grow with their policies or add regulations and taxes that use up the cash that could have been used to grow the business which means they won't grow.

Customers with an ability and desire to buy the company's products and services are a necessity as well as employees with skills and motivation to create those goods and services. Everyone is codependent on the others to find success and growth. If gov, owners, customers and employees don't each perform well success in growth and addition jobs don't happen.

The state, federal and local gov all matter, when some parts of the country add jobs and others do not we see the impact of state and local policies with uneven jobs growth result. The same happens nationally too so job growth is uneven by country too.

The rule of law and regulations are necessary but I rarely hear politicians proposing new regs or taxes to compare it to other locations competing for their jobs.

Growing a company is a long term prospect so the future outlook for customers and governments matter, which is why growth has slowed nationally in the country I live
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