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Old 04-08-2014, 07:09 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Not bad Informed, except I think what you suggested are modern day 'poor houses' & that was an epic fail before & would be even more costly than giving someone food stamps, so wouldn't people be upset about their taxes dollars going to fund these places too?
What about those to young for SS but, over 50? Should we pay to educate or train that particular group?

 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:14 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Not bad Informed, except I think what you suggested are modern day 'poor houses' & that was an epic fail before
It won't be an epic fail if the only choices are that, or fending for yourself out on the streets.
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& would be even more costly than giving someone food stamps
No. What I propose is very low cost because those who benefit would also be required to contribute; the exact opposite of what is currently occurring.

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What about those to young for SS but, over 50? Should we pay to educate or train that particular group?
Why? They, too, have the choice of living in the ward environment, or leveraging their skills to rise above that.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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Not bad Informed, except I think what you suggested are modern day 'poor houses' & that was an epic fail before & would be even more costly than giving someone food stamps, so wouldn't people be upset about their taxes dollars going to fund these places too?
What about those to young for SS but, over 50? Should we pay to educate or train that particular group?
You are paying to train the over 50 people now......at least those interested.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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Why in the world are you bring morality into a discussion concerning government? It is because stealing for your causes somehow makes it moral?
Oh brother, the "theft" argument.

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Further, Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Why does this occur? Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs. This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant who shouldn’t be shifting part of its labor costs onto the American taxpayers.

Walmart, one of the richest corporations in the world, At over $446 billion per year, Walmart is the third highest revenue grossing corporation in the world. Walmart earns over $15 billion per year in pure profit and pays its executives handsomely. In 2011, Walmart CEO Mike Duke – already a millionaire a dozen times over –
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What corporate welfare? Do you mean not charging them so much tax? Remember that if we increase the costs of doing business, which includes raising corporate taxes, etc., those cost increases get passed along to everyone who buys corporations' goods and services. The end user/consumer always pays. Guess who gets hurt the most by higher prices on goods and services?
Corporations are the biggest beneficiaries of welfare, from reasons stated by hawaiian by heart. When Walmart fails to provide a livable wage, taxpayers fund government assistance to Walmart employees.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thanks for making it so clear that your perspective on government is devoid of moral foundation.
Thanks for making it clear that you have no idea that government has no moral foundation.
Do I need to bring up all the times government has been immoral? Ever hear of Jim Crow? You'll just ignore that too while your head is in the sand.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh brother, the "theft" argument.
Oh brother the immoral, its okay to steal for your causes argument.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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Oh brother, the "theft" argument.





Corporations are the biggest beneficiaries of welfare, from reasons stated by hawaiian by heart. When Walmart fails to provide a livable wage, taxpayers fund government assistance to Walmart employees.
It is the employee's job to live within their means.

Perhaps that is a different job or, an additional job.

At one time in my life I worked three low paying jobs.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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Corporations are the biggest beneficiaries of welfare
Show me where that is in the federal budget.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:30 AM
 
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If those who are employed by corporations (who make huge profits) are eligible for benefits because their wages are not even a livable wage (paid by taxpayers) aren't those taxpayers getting angry at the wrong 'leeches' & isn't this wrong?
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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If those who are employed by corporations (who make huge profits)
What do you consider to be a "huge" profit margin?
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