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Old 03-31-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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Same way today's Democratic party tries to tie in the extreme Tea Party with the regular Republican base.
Are you claiming that Republicans don't support the tea party?

 
Old 03-31-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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As many times as the Democrats try (over and over) to pretend it's not so.
We're not pretending anything. The Democrats did vote for the 1964 Civil Rights act. That's not pretend. That's fact. Northern Democrats voted for it at a higher percentage than northern Republicans and southern Republicans voted for it at a higher percentage than southern Democrats. Those aren't pretend, those are facts.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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The Democrats are fighting for their lives, on this and other subjects.

And every time a conservative points out the truth, as the OP does, all the Dems can do is lie and deflect, lie and deflect.

YOU tell ME why it goes on so long and gets so repetetive.
It was 50 years ago! Why the hell would they be fighting for their lives over it. Even if they had opposed it and voted against it, even if they had ALL voted no and ZERO had voted yes it was FIFTY years ago

You're argument gets even worse when you try to say we're lying. Every single thing I have said about this is fact which is backed up by the numbers

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 03-31-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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We can therefore conclude that all Southerners are racists.
Yeah but you're not supposed to call southerners racist cause that's unfair
 
Old 03-31-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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A greater percentage of Republicans, in both the House and Senate, voted for the Civil Rights Act, than the percentage of Democrats.

House Democrats: 152–96 (61%-39%)
House Republicans: 138–34 (80%–20%)

Senate Democrats: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Senate Republicans: 27-6 (82%-18%)

Even though Democrats were in the majority in both houses, they would not have been able to pass it at all, unless such large majorities of Republicans also voted to pass. Fortunately the Republicans came through and saved the bill from the defeat Democrats alone would have given it.

Democrats have always supported racism. From their founding of the KKK, to their current majority membership in it, to the majority support of racist legislation in Congress even today.

If I were a Democrat, I'd try to fake as many excuses for not associating racism with Democrats as I could, just as the leftists in this thread do. The truth is just too painful for Democrats... as usual.
Even though Democrats were in the majority in both houses, they would not have been able to pass it at all, unless such large majorities of Republicans also voted to pass. Fortunately the Republicans came through and saved the bill from the defeat Democrats alone would have given it.

I'll ask again, how is that possible when Democrats voted FOR it? If no Republicans voted it still would have passed
 
Old 03-31-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Are you claiming that Republicans don't support the tea party?
Not the Republican establishment.

The Tea Party is a grassroots reform movement of the Republican Party with the objective to return the GOP to fiscally conservative principles.

It began in response to the big government excesses of the Republican Party during the last decade.

The Tea Party wants smaller, constitutional government, funded by lower taxes that will produce a strong economy and create jobs, and a transparent government accountable to the people which elects it.

Republicans who want to maintain the big government/big spending status quo don't support the Tea Party.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Not the Republican establishment.

The Tea Party is a grassroots reform movement of the Republican Party with the objective to return the GOP to fiscally conservative principles.

It began in response to the big government excesses of the Republican Party during the last decade.

The Tea Party wants smaller, constitutional government, funded by lower taxes that will produce a strong economy and create jobs, and a transparent government accountable to the people which elects it.

Republicans who want to maintain the big government/big spending status quo don't support the Tea Party.
A "grassroots reform movement" that was funded by big corporations to push corporate interests.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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Nothing says "minorities can't do it" more than emphasizing government assistance and low-paying jobs.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The main point that should be taken from this thread(in Harrier's opinion - since he wouldn't want to step on the OP's toes) is that the Democrats are not the party of civil rights.

There is no "party of civil rights".

The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 was a bipartisan effort.
The main point that should be taken from this thread is that conservatives supported racist policies of the 1960s era and liberals supported civil rights reforms.
 
Old 03-31-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
A greater percentage of Republicans, in both the House and Senate, voted for the Civil Rights Act, than the percentage of Democrats.

House Democrats: 152–96 (61%-39%)
House Republicans: 138–34 (80%–20%)

Senate Democrats: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Senate Republicans: 27-6 (82%-18%)

Even though Democrats were in the majority in both houses, they would not have been able to pass it at all, unless such large majorities of Republicans also voted to pass. Fortunately the Republicans came through and saved the bill from the defeat Democrats alone would have given it.

Democrats have always supported racism. From their founding of the KKK, to their current majority membership in it, to the majority support of racist legislation in Congress even today.

If I were a Democrat, I'd try to fake as many excuses for not associating racism with Democrats as I could, just as the leftists in this thread do. The truth is just too painful for Democrats... as usual.
In the 1960s, when Republicans were far more conservative than they are today, a greater percentage of them supported the Civil Rights Act, than the percentage of Democrats who supported it.

But let's see.... "No, it matters WHERE the Democrats were when they were voting, so it doesn't count!" ... "No, it was 60 YEARS AGO, so it doesn't count!"

Watching these people twist, shuck, and jive is more fun than a three-ring circus.

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