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Most insurances pay for viagra, if not all. Why is that? And how many people choose their own insurance policy at their job.
Too true! All those single women, who aren't getting any, paying for some jerk's (no pun intended) Viagra and penis pump!
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Originally Posted by MrClose
Does the government subsidize little league ball games? Generally, yes, Little League baseball is highly subsidized. It's usually run by the recreation board of a community, played in publicly funded parks. Oh, they get sponsors to defray SOME of the costs, but by far the majority of the costs are borne by a municipality, in the vast majority of Little Leagues.
Roller skating? Some roller rinks are publicly owned.
Wind surfing? I"m not real familiar with wind surfing, but if it's done on public land, yes, it's subsidized.
How about picnics? Generally done in public parks, so yes.
What I am getting at is this: If a man and a woman aren't having sex to reproduce .. wouldn't it then be considered a form of recreation?
Most people don't get subsidies for their insurance in any event.
I can't think of any reason why it would be wrong for the government to subsidize birth control. Mostly because you might have a few impoverished women who can't afford birth control. Then let's say they get knocked up by a total loser of a man. She has a choice abortion or having the baby and struggling to raise it on her on. I'm not saying it's wrong to be a single mother but it's hard to do it on your own. If government subsidized birth control their would be fewer abortions and some people would wait a little longer to have children.
I know people might say stuff like "well these men need to take care of their children" it's true but some men just don't care. I know plenty of women and men who had a child with someone who wouldn't take care of their child or neglected them. The government subsidizes a lot of stupid things and things that are beneficial. Plenty of prescription drugs also I can't think of a reason why birth control is any different from all the other prescription drugs subsidized by the government.
I can't think of any reason why it would be wrong for the government to subsidize birth control. Mostly because you might have a few impoverished women who can't afford birth control. Then let's say they get knocked up by a total loser of a man. She has a choice abortion or having the baby and struggling to raise it on her on. I'm not saying it's wrong to be a single mother but it's hard to do it on your own. If government subsidized birth control their would be fewer abortions and some people would wait a little longer to have children.
I know people might say stuff like "well these men need to take care of their children" it's true but some men just don't care. I know plenty of women and men who had a child with someone who wouldn't take care of their child or neglected them. The government subsidizes a lot of stupid things and things that are beneficial. Plenty of prescription drugs also I can't think of a reason why birth control is any different from all the other prescription drugs subsidized by the government.
Don't you know? Birth control is for sl*ts.
That's the bottom line.
So you didn't have ANY insurance before you were forced to? You just said you had many choices for insurance ... Which is it? NO ONE is taking away your choice of insurance, you CAN still do without if you choose to. For people like you that say they don't want health insurance there should be an OPT-OUT which means you do not have to be covered but MUST pay for all expected medical charges in CASH in advance of any treatment, emergency or not, none of this racking up a few hundred thousand in bills and filing bankruptcy.
I never said I didn't want insurance .. (Dem spin).
I said that Government shouldn't be forcing the taxpayers to 'subsidize' (pay for) others.
Up until I was able to pay off student loans and land my career of choice .. I never even thought of health care insurance.
Unlike most lefties .. I worked more than one job and paid my own way until I got into my profession.
If I had given a thought to insurance, I wouldn't have demanded that the government make others 'subsidize' (fund) it for me!
When I did get into my profession, there was a period of three days where all of our benefits were discussed and one of those days covered our insurance alone.
We/I had Gold Plated coverage and could pick and choose different plans that suited our needs.
(None of this was 'subsidized' (paid for) by taxpayers outside of the company)
The entire plan was payed for by the company.
It is not surprising that most of you lefties have never heard of 'options' or 'different plans' today!
You have either not had an education that would allow for a career with great benefit choices or .. you have spent your lives with your hands out .. demanding that others pay your way!
Btw: If I needed to, I could pay for any of my health care costs ... with cash
(That is the outcome of having an education and successful career)
I can't think of any reason why it would be wrong for the government to subsidize birth control. Mostly because you might have a few impoverished women who can't afford birth control. Then let's say they get knocked up by a total loser of a man. She has a choice abortion or having the baby and struggling to raise it on her on. I'm not saying it's wrong to be a single mother but it's hard to do it on your own. If government subsidized birth control their would be fewer abortions and some people would wait a little longer to have children.
I know people might say stuff like "well these men need to take care of their children" it's true but some men just don't care. I know plenty of women and men who had a child with someone who wouldn't take care of their child or neglected them. The government subsidizes a lot of stupid things and things that are beneficial. Plenty of prescription drugs also I can't think of a reason why birth control is any different from all the other prescription drugs subsidized by the government.
Seriously?
So being 'impoverished' or getting 'knocked up' by a total loser is a woman's first choice?
(I can think of another .. first choice)
If this 'impoverished woman is so 'impoverished', how does she eat, pay rent, utilities?
Oh that's right .. The taxpayer probably 'subsidizes' (pays) her way!
By the sound of your post, You wouldn't mind if Everything was paid for by the government.
(Well Everything that a leftist says is a Right and that the 'impoverished' couldn't afford)
The Government pays for exactly .. Nothing.
It is the taxpayers who pay for the 'impoverished'!
What would this 'impoverished' woman do if everyone in the country were 'impoverished'?
(we are indeed heading there)
Here's an idea .. Birth control starts between a woman's knees!
I never said I didn't want insurance .. (Dem spin).
I said that Government shouldn't be forcing the taxpayers to 'subsidize' (pay for) others.
Up until I was able to pay off student loans and land my career of choice .. I never even thought of health care insurance.
Unlike most lefties .. I worked more than one job and paid my own way until I got into my profession.
If I had given a thought to insurance, I wouldn't have demanded that the government make others 'subsidize' (fund) it for me!
When I did get into my profession, there was a period of three days where all of our benefits were discussed and one of those days covered our insurance alone.
We/I had Gold Plated coverage and could pick and choose different plans that suited our needs.
(None of this was 'subsidized' (paid for) by taxpayers outside of the company)
The entire plan was payed for by the company.
It is not surprising that most of you lefties have never heard of 'options' or 'different plans' today!
You have either not had an education that would allow for a career with great benefit choices or .. you have spent your lives with your hands out .. demanding that others pay your way!
Btw: If I needed to, I could pay for any of my health care costs ... with cash
(That is the outcome of having an education and successful career)
And, when you didn't have insurance, if you had needed healthcare......others would have subsidized your care.
You could have had an accident before you attained the skills you needed for your profession.
That accident could have left you disabled to the point where you would have never obtained the skills needed for your profession......and the money that came with it.......and the ability to pay your medical bills.
You gambled and won......you could just as easily have lost......and been forced to rely on others to pay for your medical needs. It's time for you to jump down off of your high horse.
And.....here is a newsflash for you: For every woman that uses birth control for contraception......there is at least one man who also benefits.
So......subsidized birth control isn't just a women's issue, is it?
Women's birth control also frees up men to have recreational sex.....just like Viagra and penis pumps.....so, it should be covered just the same.
So parents have no problem letting their 12-year-olds play baseball, go to picnics or windsurf. I guess they don't mind if their kids have recreational sex either?
So parents have no problem letting their 12-year-olds play baseball, go to picnics or windsurf. I guess they don't mind if their kids have recreational sex either?
Talk about a logic fail! We went from talking about consenting adults to kids?
And, when you didn't have insurance, if you had needed healthcare......others would have subsidized your care.
You could have had an accident before you attained the skills you needed for your profession.
That accident could have left you disabled to the point where you would have never obtained the skills needed for your profession......and the money that came with it.......and the ability to pay your medical bills.
You gambled and won......you could just as easily have lost......and been forced to rely on others to pay for your medical needs. It's time for you to jump down off of your high horse.
And.....here is a newsflash for you: For every woman that uses birth control for contraception......there is at least one man who also benefits.
So......subsidized birth control isn't just a women's issue, is it?
Women's birth control also frees up men to have recreational sex.....just like Viagra and penis pumps.....so, it should be covered just the same.
I could have also been hit by a meteor .. (oh the pain of it all)!
(meteor coverage should be mandated)
Just a guess?
(A darn good one I believe)
You have some trouble with comprehension?
(That's trouble with reading and understanding to you lefties)
This whole topic was about what Everyone's insurance has to include (Birth Control) under a force of government mandate!!
This may come as a surprise .. At one time, this was a free country where an individual had the 'Right' to pick what kind of coverage he chose.
If he had no coverage, there was no forced mandate for anyone to take care of him.
(unless they were in a program where they took payment from the feds like Medicaid or were a participant in EMTALA (look it up) and which only applies to participating hospitals.)
Even this did not allow anyone to assume that they didn't have a responsibility to pay their bill.
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If the patient doesn't pay the bill, the hospital can sue the patient and the unsatisfied judgment will likely appear on the patient's credit report.
Here is some interesting reading for you clowns who believe the Obama's give a d@mn about your health care:
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Michelle Obama's Patient-Dumping Scheme
The First Lady helped create a notorious program that dumped poor patients on community hospitals, yet the national media ignore the story. Imagine if her husband were a Republican.
The University of Chicago Medical Center has received a good deal of justly opprobrious press over its policy of "redirecting" low-income patients to community hospitals while reserving its own beds for well-heeled patients requiring highly profitable procedures.
Substantial coverage was given to a recent indictment of the program by the American College of Emergency Physicians. ACEP's president, Dr. Nick Jouriles, released a statement suggesting that the initiative comes "dangerously close to ‘patient dumping,' a practice made illegal by the Emergency Medical Labor and Treatment Act, and reflected an effort to ‘cherry pick' wealthy patients over poor."
As for your remarks on men benefiting from a woman's birth control .. No response to idiot statements are the best responses.
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