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Old 03-31-2014, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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It matters because the OP's article(or rather Priebus himself) was arguing that calling him white was in and of itself an insult. He indeed looks white in his picture, so calling him white was not meant as an insult but simply an observation.

Context does matter.

And no, it does not make her racist for doing so, are you really going to say that people in this nation have the same experiences, im guessing not, so what is so wrong with arguing that someone with the same possible experiences as yourself is more equipped to respond to you than someone who is not ??

Would you allow a mechanic to operate on your brain ?
Does this mean that we no longer have to pay attention to what blacks have to say about the current state of white affairs in America?
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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Does this mean that we no longer have to listen to what blacks think whites should think or do?
You mean that you ever listened to it in the first place?
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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NO
rac·ist
ˈrāsist/
noun


noun: racist; plural noun: racists
  1. 1.
    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    synonyms:racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More"he was exposed as a racist"


    (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted
    "a racist society"






adjective


noun: racist; plural noun: racists; adjective: racist
  1. 1.
    having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
    "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"



This is a laughably inadequate definition, cherry-picked to support your argument in this particular case. Note that under this definition, if someone does not allow blacks to eat at his lunch counter, it is not racist unless he believes that whites are superior to blacks. If he does not serve blacks for ANY other reason, whether it is that he just doesn't like them, or thinks it will be bad for business, or it came to him in a dream...it's not racist, by your definition.

See the 'concise encyclopedia' definition here for a better definition. Anything that foments racial division or treats people differently solely on the basis of skin pigmentation is racism, pure and simple.

Interesting that some liberals now find themselves having to adopt the narrowest possible definition of 'racism' in order to avoid being classed as racists. hmmmm.

Racism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It matters. A lot. A whole lot.

If the guy had been white, then no apology was warranted at all.
That's sad. So when White folks disagree with her they are dismissed as racist. So much for our conversation on race.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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Hmmm...

Why is it that Blacks can call each other the N word, but no other races can?
It ain't just Black people using the "N word": I've heard young anglo white dudes call each other that. Tho it seems to be the N word with "A" with Black dudes and N word with "R" with anglo white guys.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You mean that you ever listened to it in the first place?
Touché
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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That's sad. So when White folks disagree with her they are dismissed as racist. So much for our conversation on race.
I didn't say that they should be dismissed as racist.

They should just be dismissed.

And there should be no conversation on race. For what? I can accept where everyone stands and leave it at that.

I'm not interested in changing minds. Maybe that's your bag, but it ain't mine.

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Old 04-01-2014, 06:30 AM
 
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LMFAO ROTF, ok that was hilarious(stupid), but not really news worthy, Anything that would have actually sparked a controversy like the thread we are currently in ?

I honestly dont know the women, and the way you talk, she has been in trouble before, that is why im asking.
I dunno, I have kids who think that women can't rap, but have never heard of Laryn Hill.

And to be fair, there's not much room for controversy here, either. The dude is a light-skinned, straight-haired guy whose Twitter Avater is him in front a picture of Ronald Reagan. Referring to him as white was a reasonable assumtion. Two, if she doesn't want to have a conversation, it's her right And third, since twitter conservatives with their usual barrage of actual racial slurs and rape threats when sites like Twitchy or Daily Caller high like a black woman, well, they hardly have room to finger-point.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yeah, that's not racist.
It is racist, so why do they treat them that way?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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I dunno, I have kids who think that women can't rap, but have never heard of Laryn Hill.

And to be fair, there's not much room for controversy here, either. The dude is a light-skinned, straight-haired guy whose Twitter Avater is him in front a picture of Ronald Reagan. Referring to him as white was a reasonable assumtion. Two, if she doesn't want to have a conversation, it's her right And third, since twitter conservatives with their usual barrage of actual racial slurs and rape threats when sites like Twitchy or Daily Caller high like a black woman, well, they hardly have room to finger-point.
Anytime the head of a magazine like Ebony, American Rifleman, Sports Illustrated, Vogue....any of them....responds to someones tweet by singling out their pigmentation or ethnicity....it's wrong.

I mean, imagine some white editor of a hunting magazine responding to a tweet from a woman with "I don't need a woman telling me....." or a mexican guy "I don't need some mexican telling me...."

The reason she wasn't canned on the spot was because the magazines readership and sponsors won't turn on the magazine over her comments. If she were the editor for a more diverse publication she'd have been fired for it as it would have cost them readers and advertisers.

Just because the persons picture allows you to identify them as white, black, asian....doesn't make it ok to single out thier ethnicity as some sort of rebuttal. Basically she declared his comment invalid because in her eyes he was white, there really is no defending that. I mean sure, if he'd commented on the pains of childbirth then sure, pointing out he's a man would be pertinent....but in this case nope.
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